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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    "the way the Eloi look to the Morlocks to take care of them."

    Excellent analogy Robo!
    I'm just glad that there are others who are old enough with enough culture to have understood....

    Then again, The Big Bang Theory has revived H.G. Wells's great story as the theme of one of their episodes. But you have to admit that Democrats in political power resemble Morlocks more and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    I remember the example... yet seem to be missing the book...

    Can you guys post the book title? THX
    H.G. Wells; "The Time Machine"
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    They look like Democrats when Democrats become powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 54885488 View Post
    Good old days as in 1910's which is when roboteq made reference to . And i agree the poor with all the programs are better off than the working poor like you made reference to in another thread here a few weeks ago . As far as phones and internet i would bet that some have them . I don't know what i'm suppose to deal with maybe you can inlighten me .
    I never referred to the first decade of the 20th Century as "the good old days". As usual, leftists like to just make up attitudes that are non-existant in a conversation in order to enhance their own skewed views of the world.

    Prior to Socialism starting to take hold on the U.S. in the second decade 20th Century, there were plenty of issues, just like there are at any point in history. As usual, the wealthy took unfair advantage of the poor by creating working situations that prevented the workers from bettering themselves. This is a common factor of societies whenever a distinct and vast class separation occurs.

    While there will always be financial levels of society, it is only when the power of the people becomes lopsided that societies become horrific for some while a few continue to gain more and more power. Eventually, the oppressed revolt against the powerful. Right now, the shift in power is going to Socialist elites who are dividing the U.S. at a rapid rate. We are being divided by our financial status, we are being divided by race and we are being divided by religious and political beliefs. I realize that the country has been more divided in some past years, but in over half a century, I have not seen the U.S. as divided as it is right now....and I lived while there was still segregation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    Not referring to you "dealing with it". If one CHOOSES to be a beggar then deal with scraps or nothing at all. I know what time period he was referring to. The good ol' days when the poor and downtrodden were just that. Everyone else was resourceful. People figured things out. Resourcefulness takes hard work. Hard work reaps rewards. If working hard is "no so good" then I'm not getting the point. If being poor reaps rewards then why work hard?
    Agreed. My family had to use public assistance programs when I was growing up because my mom would not let my dad, who was a Merchant Marine from the time he was 16, go to sea. My dad just didn't have any other skills, and could not keep a decent job as a landlubber.

    Public assistance was a lot different when I was growing up. First off, we were directed to local social and religious charities for help with rent and transportation. We got a monthly allocation of certain foods and a weekly allocation of more perishable foods. I fondly remember the one pound block of cheese, pound block of butter and half gallon cardboard tub of peanut butter we could pick up monthly. Chipped beef was available on Sundays at the local food bank (at a church) and on Monday, the chipped beef and gravy on bread had a lot of meat in it....by Friday it was gravy bread.

    The point is that we knew we were poor, and we understood why. Eventually, my mom gave in and let my dad go back to sea, and she herself started working. In their later years, still working, my mom and dad owned a condo in Ocean City, MD and all of their children grew up more or less fine. We were allowed to get better by not being made to feel we deserved to be taken care of and allowed to understand that getting what you don't work for is charity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    Put charity back in the church
    And all of the other social organizations that used to be a primary source of help for when citizens were down. All of these public organizations allowed people to accept charity while getting spiritual and emotional advice and comfort. In order to control the masses, Socialist thinking persons have replaced God and personal relationships with government programs that do nothing but continue to promote themselves as being more and more necessary. It is a vicious circle that must continue to grow in order to keep feeding the greedy appetites of those who control them. Government social programs are nothing more than pyramid scams on a major scale.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    I never referred to the first decade of the 20th Century as "the good old days". As usual, leftists like to just make up attitudes that are non-existant in a conversation in order to enhance their own skewed views of the world.

    Prior to Socialism starting to take hold on the U.S. in the second decade 20th Century, there were plenty of issues, just like there are at any point in history. As usual, the wealthy took unfair advantage of the poor by creating working situations that prevented the workers from bettering themselves. This is a common factor of societies whenever a distinct and vast class separation occurs.

    While there will always be financial levels of society, it is only when the power of the people becomes lopsided that societies become horrific for some while a few continue to gain more and more power. Eventually, the oppressed revolt against the powerful. Right now, the shift in power is going to Socialist elites who are dividing the U.S. at a rapid rate. We are being divided by our financial status, we are being divided by race and we are being divided by religious and political beliefs. I realize that the country has been more divided in some past years, but in over half a century, I have not seen the U.S. as divided as it is right now....and I lived while there was still segregation.
    (We should strive for first decade of the Twentieth Century standards when Americans thought for themselves more, took more responsibility for themselves and didn't look to the government the way the Eloi look to the Morlocks to take care of them.) Why would you have us strive for a time in the past that was not the good old days ? If i was going to look back you can bet it would be a good time . Well lefty out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 54885488 View Post
    (We should strive for first decade of the Twentieth Century standards when Americans thought for themselves more, took more responsibility for themselves and didn't look to the government the way the Eloi look to the Morlocks to take care of them.) Why would you have us strive for a time in the past that was not the good old days ? If i was going to look back you can bet it would be a good time . Well lefty out .

    Hey Lefty. Define good time(s). At one point in time in Americas history people were ashamed to be on government assistance. Now they expect it.

    I've brought this up before. My ex wife has been collecting a check, compliments of you and I, for the 17 years we've been divorced. My boy is grown and has nothing to do with her. She has what the doc calls bi polar but I call it alcoholism. She has another kid she collects a check for. FOR 17 YEARS she's been on assistance. If our great nation deems someone should collect a check for that long, LOCK THEM UP. Seems like a better deal for the taxpayers. 35k per year to incarcerate a prisoner or 50-60k so they can be free??? Do the math. Maybe it wil click in those lazyasses heads. No, this is not bitter ex wife talk, as I have not spoken to her in years. This is my pocketbook talking.
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    Let me get this staight. What was available to you when you your family was destitute should not be available to those that need help today because the hand that fed you has changed.

    What a remarkable set of standards.

    You do realize that with advances in science, debauchery in religious organizations, i. e. prayer letters for money, pedophiles and prosperity preaching, that secularlists have had enough of the religious right telling them how to live their life in order to be feed and house the poor.

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    Watching the news. Boehner is blaming the Prez for not compromising. Since when is the Prez a member of the House. Pass or vote on a freaking bill and if the Dems or the Prez blocks it, then you can blame someone.
    The Prez doesn't write the bills. Where are the Dems on this. All I keep hearing is sound bites from Reid. Many politicians cross party lines. Why are we playing chicken with the Prez.
    Grow a pair and pass a bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaard View Post
    Watching the news. Boehner is blaming the Prez for not compromising. Since when is the Prez a member of the House. Pass or vote on a freaking bill and if the Dems or the Prez blocks it, then you can blame someone.
    The Prez doesn't write the bills. Where are the Dems on this. All I keep hearing is sound bites from Reid. Many politicians cross party lines. Why are we playing chicken with the Prez.
    Grow a pair and pass a bill.
    Amen!

    And as Trump stated, also tell the Prez. we will not raise the debt ceiling in a couple of weeks.

    That will get everybody's attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    Hey Lefty. Define good time(s). At one point in time in Americas history people were ashamed to be on government assistance. Now they expect it.

    I've brought this up before. My ex wife has been collecting a check, compliments of you and I, for the 17 years we've been divorced. My boy is grown and has nothing to do with her. She has what the doc calls bi polar but I call it alcoholism. She has another kid she collects a check for. FOR 17 YEARS she's been on assistance. If our great nation deems someone should collect a check for that long, LOCK THEM UP. Seems like a better deal for the taxpayers. 35k per year to incarcerate a prisoner or 50-60k so they can be free??? Do the math. Maybe it wil click in those lazyasses heads. No, this is not bitter ex wife talk, as I have not spoken to her in years. This is my pocketbook talking.
    Good times is when the wife is on top .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 54885488 View Post
    Good times is when the wife is on top .

    Officially, Down for the count

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    Quote Originally Posted by behappy View Post
    Amen!

    And as Trump stated, also tell the Prez. we will not raise the debt ceiling in a couple of weeks.

    That will get everybody's attention.
    You do know that back during the Iraq war, the democrats said they would not raise the debt ceiling and the Republicans blamed them of not wanting to pay the soldiers or give them the equipment they needed to up armour their vehicles.

    By you response , do you think the soldiers in Afghanistan don't want to get paid and desire the best protection money can buy?
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