The second amendment

[hearthman]

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." George Washington,
First President of the United States

'nuff said George!

[corny]

While old George probably did say a few good things about firearms... he couldnt stand the idea of a rabble militia defending the usa but I am sure he appreciated firearms.....

Anyhow... While he probably was pro gun and all he didnt ever say the above quote.... or at least it cannot be attributed to him historically. In other words.... nobody ever wrote it down in his lifetime....or within even 100 years of his death...

Just another internet age quote......lol Usually told by someone who has no respect for his fellow citizen....or the person he is mis attributing his quote to........

[corny]

We should all take inspiration from the Gurkha. The British got so frustrated with not being able to oppress those Nepalese that they just got them to join the British military. As one claimed quip goes; "If a man says he is not afraid of dying, he is either a liar or a Gurkha."

I remember back in the late 80s or early 90s seeing a documentary on the falklands island war..... and it showed these british and gurkhas on a hillside getting shelled or fired upon in some manner.... you could see dirt flying and stuff... people cowering behind rocks etc.... except for the gurkhas who were standing up and looking around probably cussing the enemy for getting dirt in their soup.

[hearthman]

You know corny, I don't know what you write here because I have you blocked. However, I would like to point out that in your madness, you rarely can make a single post but usually follow yourself often two or three times. Might I suggest you stop and formulate one cohesive, complete thought before you post here? I doubt it would help your content but it might make it so at least a few people read your drivel here.

Have a nice day!

[corny]

He reads my posts.....lol

Just trying to help folks when I point out those false quotes..... the people who write them are deceiving you for their own selfish purpose and they also dishonor the person they are mis quoting.

They are lying to you...... calling you an ignorant dolt.....knowing the majority of americans are too damn lazy to use the very same tool they spread their lies with to actually do some fact checking on those lies....

And they are right to some extent......

[RoBoTeq]

While old George probably did say a few good things about firearms... he couldnt stand the idea of a rabble militia defending the usa but I am sure he appreciated firearms.....

Anyhow... While he probably was pro gun and all he didnt ever say the above quote.... or at least it cannot be attributed to him historically. In other words.... nobody ever wrote it down in his lifetime....or within even 100 years of his death...

Just another internet age quote......lol Usually told by someone who has no respect for his fellow citizen....or the person he is mis attributing his quote to........

George Washington would have had absolutely no rationale to be anything but pro-gun. In Washington's time, the only reason to restrict weaponry for citizens was for government to be able to unfairly control citizens.

There was no concern about "accidental" deaths from guns or pretending to be trying to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys because every member of every household was used to having guns around and the bad guys were dealt with appropriately when they acted up and were caught.

As for Washington preferring a uniformly trained military, he was himself trained in a formal military, so of course that is what he would prefer. But why do you say he was opposed to a rabble militia? Washington began his American military career commanding colonial militia men against the British in Boston. Then, Washington incorporated the militias into the continental army. Washington obviously had a lot more respect for the colonial militia than, say, our military leaders had for the courageous men of the Flying Tigers who were treated like dirt when the U.S. formally got into WWII.

[garyed]

Ok Sneering One, give us examples of things Jonah Goldberg has said that are incorrect and therefore, "laughable".

BTW, McCarthy was laughed at and mocked for is supposed "paranoia" but he was been largely proven correct as our current situation proves. A typical liberal tactic is to cast doubt or dispersion without backing your assertion up with facts.

If you want to compare Jews vs. socialism, ask Polish and German Jews how they feel about the NAZI party...

I think you have things a little mixed up. I agree that the liberal Democratic party is much closer to socialism than the conservative Republican party but comparing them to the Nazi party is way too much a leap. When the American Nazi's & KKK vote & have to chose between Democrat & Republican who do you think they vote for. I'll give you a clue, it ain't the Democrats. Being Jewish myself I can tell you that a lot of us look at the Democrats as the lesser of two evils but there are also plenty of us who vote Republican too. I agree more with the conservatives on an issue by issue basis than I do liberals but I still can't bring myself to vote for a party that most racists & bigots align themselves with. It's not that I look at all conservatives as racists & bigots but I do think quite a few are mixed into their crowd. I also don't think there is anything that a good hearted, caring,hard working, moral, patriotic conservative can do about it.

[coolwhip]

But your glad to be a racist democrat that will vote a man in office obviously not because of merit, but because of the color of his skin. Must be tough cleaning that egg off your face every day.

[hearthman]

I think you have things a little mixed up. I agree that the liberal Democratic party is much closer to socialism than the conservative Republican party but comparing them to the Nazi party is way too much a leap. When the American Nazi's & KKK vote & have to chose between Democrat & Republican who do you think they vote for. I'll give you a clue, it ain't the Democrats. Being Jewish myself I can tell you that a lot of us look at the Democrats as the lesser of two evils but there are also plenty of us who vote Republican too. I agree more with the conservatives on an issue by issue basis than I do liberals but I still can't bring myself to vote for a party that most racists & bigots align themselves with. It's not that I look at all conservatives as racists & bigots but I do think quite a few are mixed into their crowd. I also don't think there is anything that a good hearted, caring,hard working, moral, patriotic conservative can do about it.

I can not comment on the American NAZI party as I was not referencing them but the German one, which stands for the National Socialists German Workers Party. That means German NAZIs.

The KKK was made up of Southerner democrats who voted "Solid South". Since Lincoln, it has been the Republican Party who has historically voted in the favor of blacks while Democrats up until LBJ voted strongly AGAINST blacks until they figured out they could play off the black's sentiments and buy their votes with favors such as Affirmative Action and Voting Rights laws.

As for the party that aligns itself with racists and bigots, that would OVERWHELMINGLY be the Democrat party by a landslide. They LIVE for racism and bigotry because it fuels their coffers.

[jmac00]

While old George probably did say a few good things about firearms... he couldnt stand the idea of a rabble militia defending the usa but I am sure he appreciated firearms.....

Anyhow... While he probably was pro gun and all he didnt ever say the above quote.... or at least it cannot be attributed to him historically. In other words.... nobody ever wrote it down in his lifetime....or within even 100 years of his death...

Just another internet age quote......lol Usually told by someone who has no respect for his fellow citizen....or the person he is mis attributing his quote to........

these guy think he said it

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...ash386652.html

ARISTOTLE
“Those who have the command of the arms in a country are masters of the state, and have it in their power to make what revolutions they please. [Thus,] there is no end to observations on the difference between the measures likely to be pursued by a minister backed by a standing army, and those of a court awed by the fear of an armed people.”

[RoBoTeq]

I think you have things a little mixed up. I agree that the liberal Democratic party is much closer to socialism than the conservative Republican party but comparing them to the Nazi party is way too much a leap. When the American Nazi's & KKK vote & have to chose between Democrat & Republican who do you think they vote for. I'll give you a clue, it ain't the Democrats. Being Jewish myself I can tell you that a lot of us look at the Democrats as the lesser of two evils but there are also plenty of us who vote Republican too. I agree more with the conservatives on an issue by issue basis than I do liberals but I still can't bring myself to vote for a party that most racists & bigots align themselves with. It's not that I look at all conservatives as racists & bigots but I do think quite a few are mixed into their crowd. I also don't think there is anything that a good hearted, caring,hard working, moral, patriotic conservative can do about it.

The KKK was born out of the Democratic Party, historically is a force of the Democratic Party

History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party.

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans....eDemocratParty and continues to support the Democratic Party

Hatred of Israel Brings the KKK and Democrats Back Together

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/arnold-...rats-together/

Yes, politics does make for strange bedfellows....

[ga-hvac-tech]

As usual... the TRUTH is NOT what is said in public... it is what is researched behind the talking heads.

Those that are willing to do the research know what the truth is... IMO the others (the ones too lazy to look) are the ones being fooled by the talking heads.

Hey libs... how does it feel to be a fool of the talking heads... <grin>

[netsalt]

But THIS Republican party is NOT the Republican party of your daddy, just for yuks look at the Republican party platform of 1956. It is truly something you need to read to believe. Not one of the signatories to that document would exist in todays Rethuglican party.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25838