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Thread: The second amendment
12-24-2012, 09:27 PM #27
12-24-2012, 09:30 PM #28
I do not know if the US has the problems that you think it has, I have traveled the world many times (as free traveler), and have to say generally speaking how damn lucky we are in the West.
I do not know, how much of the change in the US is actually to do with the US, the world is catching up, which is bring down The US and the western world. Are our exceptions to high. Do we look at the past through rose coulored glasses.
12-24-2012, 09:35 PM #29
12-24-2012, 09:44 PM #30
While I don't consider myself a "wordsmith" I'm maybe a "word craftsman" or a "word artisan"
I also try to read words and understand them in their context and the context in which they were written. These can be very important in properly understanding the true meaning of the words.
12-24-2012, 09:48 PM #31
12-24-2012, 09:53 PM #32
Thank you, Sir.
You communicate very well, don't put yourself down.
I'm often amazed at the difference in communications skills of Americans vs the rest of the world.
American education is really sad when stood next to the rest of the English speaking world (and much of the non-English speaking world as well)
We're getting a bit off topic, though....
12-24-2012, 09:58 PM #33
I believe the unorganized militia is nothing more than the draft eligible citizenry of the USA. Only time they are going to be called up for service is when they are drafted and sent off to boot camp kicking and screaming.Let go of my cracker jacks, If you dont Im going to have to beat you....... now then hand my captain crunch back over to me this instant.....or else !!!
12-24-2012, 10:10 PM #34
Read the definition that k-fridge posted and the link that I posted.
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
As we will describe below, the “militia”
in colonial America consisted of a subset of “the people”—
those who were male, able bodied, and within a
certain age range.
As I suggested before, the opinion of the SCOTUS is excellent reading should you care to take the time to do so. I must admit that I learned much reading it.
The Second Amendment was, IMO, put in place to ensure that those 'able bodied citizens' would remain armed.
12-24-2012, 10:15 PM #35
12-24-2012, 10:32 PM #36
I believe I would do a little more reading there.... get your head out of the heller vs dc case and look how the unorganized militia has been described over the years..... the unorganized militia of the USA has no purpose whatsoever..... nada....nothing ....zilch....... they can however be called up for active military duty whenever the government sees fit.
The national guard ended the need for any citizen militias..... The unorganized militia is just a body of men waiting to be called to duty, they are not supposed to train....not supposed to equip themselves..... they are to do nothing but exist until they are needed for cannon fodder.
Do you honestly think that if the shtf in america that the government is going to rely on its armed citizens to do anything ???
Nope... We have enough armed forces and guard units in this country to stave off any attacks till the unorganized militia can be called up and sent off to boot camp...... which is what their purpose has been since 1903 or 1930.... somewhere in there.
Im not arguing against a mans right to have a gun...even a military type weapon as I dont believe there should be any restrictions on what a man owns..... but all this 2nd amendment BS.... trying to use that as an excuse for people arming themselves to protect the nation.....is BS...
Thats just not going to happen anymore..... aint no need for a citizen militia anymore cause we got one called the national guard.
SHTF.... men are going to be drafted into the service.
Could you just imagine an unorganized bunch of yahoos out there trying to defend the country...... they would probably be killing their neighbors at a higher rate than any sort of enemy.
The unorganized militia is the draft pool.... that was its intention when the national guard was formed.Let go of my cracker jacks, If you dont Im going to have to beat you....... now then hand my captain crunch back over to me this instant.....or else !!!
12-24-2012, 10:55 PM #37Professional Member
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we have a third world country on our southern border. the drug lords there have more power than the mexican army. we have a leadership in washington, that will not only not protect our border, but has supplied weapons to the drug lords. these drug lords are expanding north and into our country. yet the same people who armed these drug lords, and turn their heads and look the other way, want to take my weapons.
look no further than the state of ill. to see what gun control does to lower violent crime. i have a right to defend both me and my family. i should at least be able to possess arms equal to what the criminals have. when a criminal comes for you. you may be willing to wait the ten to thirty minutes it takes for law enforcement to arrive.
as a cancer patient i am prescribed some powerful pain pills along with some others that drug heads would love to have. they have no problems doing whatever to get their hands on these type pills. i keep the pills locked up, and while they are not worth killing someone over. i will defend myself and my family with deadly force if needed.i wanted to put a picture here
12-24-2012, 10:58 PM #38
12-25-2012, 12:05 AM #39
Look at the numbers.
There are 300,000,000 americans.
There are 150,000,000 males.
There are _75.000,000 males able to put up a physical effort to make a militia of sorts.
There are _25,000,000 males AT LEAST who would be some really mean militia.
There are ___,500,000 regular army in our combined military forces....
This is why a militia is so important for the security of our nation. The numbers are staggering, as the British army discovered. The British at the time, bar none, were the best army in the world.
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