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  1. #1067
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    Yeah sick people with guns.

    And spare me the "BAT" comparison.
    I'm not trying to make any comparisons.

    It's a simple matter that, if GUNS caused the problem, the violence would be one H**L of a lot worse.

    The VAST majority of guns and gun owners NEVER commit a crime with their firearms.

    Placing further restrictions on the type of guns that someone can LEGALLY own would have zero effect on crime because the SANE and LAW ABIDING citizens, those who are no danger to anyone, would continue to follow the law while the INSANE and the CRIMINALS, those who ARE a danger, will continue to disregard it.

    It's a logical inconsistency that so many seem to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    MC, have you ever owned, or shot a gun?
    Yep

    Used to work armed security when I was younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I'm not trying to make any comparisons.

    It's a simple matter that, if GUNS caused the problem, the violence would be one H**L of a lot worse.

    The VAST majority of guns and gun owners NEVER commit a crime with their firearms.

    Placing further restrictions on the type of guns that someone can LEGALLY own would have zero effect on crime because the SANE and LAW ABIDING citizens, those who are no danger to anyone, would continue to follow the law while the INSANE and the CRIMINALS, those who ARE a danger, will continue to disregard it.

    It's a logical inconsistency that so many seem to ignore.
    You can say all you want that you are not drawing a comparison but you are whether you realize it or not.

    We had one LAW ABIDING CITIZEN here in Tucson who gunned down 19 people two years ago to the day.

    What is your solution for Loughner not being able to purchase the gun he used to do it with?

    And don't give me we should have had a mental evaluation prior because that is not a justifiable answer because it would never have happened.

    Having some sort of certification process is the best and most reasonable way to prevent sales of firearms to wackos.

    And anyone who wants to argue this point is simply making themselves look silly with such a position on this issue.

    I thought you were one of the ones that were smart enough to get it.

    Guess not.

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    The Second Amendment


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    Again only deflection from you.

    Only WHTAT IF THIS and What IF THAT.

    All these could be worked out with some discussion.

    A discussion you are unwilling to have.

    What a waste of time.

    Only a fool looks at problems with your attitude.

    Get your guns banned then.

    You deserve it.
    and thats your response? you don't want a discussion, you WANT A BAN. why don't you answer my questions....all of them. You want me to restate every one of them

    But of course when I did post what I would be in favor of, you COMPLETELY dismissed it.

    so your not here for an answer are you. your here to tell us that we should bow to your will, and when we don't you take the "Borg" defense.

    way to go, WE WILL NOT BE ASSIMILATED,
    LOVE has four letters

    So does BEER, DEER,GUNS AND FISH

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    and thats your response? you don't want a discussion, you WANT A BAN. why don't you answer my questions....all of them. You want me to restate every one of them

    But of course when I did post what I would be in favor of, you COMPLETELY dismissed it.

    so your not here for an answer are you. your here to tell us that we should bow to your will, and when we don't you take the "Borg" defense.

    way to go, WE WILL NOT BE ASSIMILATED,

    Yep thats my response to you.

    Its not MY will its the will of the government.

    Get used to it.

    You are not willing to discuss anything in good faith.

    The people who do want gun control love irrational big mouths spouting such rhetoric.

    You make their job easier to convince others that your side is never going to compromise so a ban is the only way to fix the gun problem

    Only a fool can't see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    Yep

    Used to work armed security when I was younger.
    Just wondering,why the intense hatred?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    Just wondering,why the intense hatred?
    I could ask you guys the same question.

    None of you are willing to give an inch

    You all are going to get the ban you deserve because of your unwillingness to compromise.

    As I have said before: Go ahead bite off your noses to spite your face

    It will either be tougher gun purchasing and ammo regulations or a ban.

    At this point it doesn't matter either way to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    I could ask you guys the same question.

    None of you are willing to give an inch

    You all are going to get the ban you deserve because of your unwillingness to compromise.
    I guess you're right. I won't compromise. I refuse to have a victims mind set. Or to be a victim.


    I don't see a total ban, in my lifetime anyway. You just can't shut down a billions of dollar a year machine like the firearms industry.The people that own firearms (like me) won't tolerate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    I guess you're right. I won't compromise. I refuse to have a victims mind set. Or to be a victim.
    So be it then.

    We'll see

    Good luck with that.

    I'm sure you all will go out guns blazing.

    That swat team with gas, guns, and percussion bombs may have a different idea as to the outcome of your intolerance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post

    It will either be tougher gun purchasing and ammo regulations or a ban.

    At this point it doesn't matter either way to me.
    It won't effect me either. I have enough of both to last me the rest of my life.
    I hate to see what happens to the next generation though.

    I've lived through 2 "bans" so far. All they accomplished, was to drive prices up. During the last one, I paid $700.00 for a magazine! And they're approaching that price again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    So be it then.

    We'll see

    Good luck with that.

    I'm sure you all will go out guns blazing.

    That swat team with gas, guns, and percussion bombs may have a different idea as to the outcome of your intolerance.
    Kinda sounds like Waco, or the Randy Weaver incidents to me.
    You really need to quit adding to you posts before I can reply to the original posting. Never did I hint that I'd go out guns blazing.


    When you have some extra time, try reading this article. (No, I really don't think you will)

    http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ragingag...elfdefense.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    I could ask you guys the same question.

    None of you are willing to give an inch

    You all are going to get the ban you deserve because of your unwillingness to compromise.

    As I have said before: Go ahead bite off your noses to spite your face

    It will either be tougher gun purchasing and ammo regulations or a ban.

    At this point it doesn't matter either way to me.
    we have been compromising for 40 years, and now you want more, bite me. Im not giving another inch.
    LOVE has four letters

    So does BEER, DEER,GUNS AND FISH

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