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    Quote Originally Posted by Milk man View Post
    http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Dachau...chauLife4.html

    Below is an excerpt from an interview with Theodore Haas, conducted by Aaron Zelman, founder of the organization called "Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership." Haas was living in America and was a member of this organization at the time that he gave this interview.

    Haas still has nightmares about the persecution he endured as a Jew in Nazi Germany. He survived the Holocaust only because he was released from Dachau in 1941, two years after World War II started, but before plans for the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" were made on January 20, 1942 at the Wannsee Conference. In February 1942, deportation of all the Jews to the death camps in Poland began.

    The interviewer, Aaron Zelman, asks the questions and Theodore Haas answers:

    Q.) How did you end up at Dachau? How old were you?

    A.) November 9th, 1938 was Kristallnacht -- The Night of
    Broken Glass -- The night Synagogues were ransacked and
    burned, Jewish owned shops destroyed; I guess you could call
    it the night the fires of hell engulfed the soul of humanity.
    I was arrested November 10th, "for my own personal
    security." I was 21 years old. My parents were arrested and
    ultimately died in a concentration camp in France. I was
    released from Dachau in 1941, under the condition that I
    leave Germany immediately. This was common procedure before
    the "Final Solution."

    Q.) What did you think when you were sent to Dachau? What
    did you know about Dachau beforehand?

    A.) My first thoughts were those of many others: "The world has
    gone mad." I knew that the life expectancy at Dachau was
    relatively short. I knew beforehand that inmates were
    abused. The horror of Dachau was known throughout Germany.
    People (Germans) used to frighten their children, "If you do
    not behave, you will surely end up at Dachau." A famous
    German comedian, Weiss Ferdl, said "Regardless how many
    machine gun towers they have around K.Z. Dachau, if I want
    to get in, I shall get in." The Nazis obliged him; he died
    at Dachau.

    Q.) How did you accept the fears of Dachau?

    A.) Due to the constant hunger and extreme cold weather, one
    becomes too numb to even think of fear. A prisoner under
    these conditions becomes obsessed with survival; nothing
    else matters.

    Q.) What were the living conditions like in Dachau?

    A.) We were issued one quarter of a loaf of bread. That was
    to last three days. In the morning, we picked up, at the
    kitchen, a cup of roasted barley drink. There was no lunch.
    At dinnertime, sometimes we got a watery soup with bits of
    tripe or some salt herring and a boiled potato. Our prison
    clothes were a heavy, coarse denim. They would freeze when
    they got wet. We were not issued hats, gloves or underwear.
    The first night, about 500 prisoners were stuffed into a
    room designed to hold 50 (Believe me, it is possible). Later
    on, we were forced to sleep on straw. As time went on, the
    straw disintegrated and we became louse infested. The guards
    delighted in making weak and ill clothed prisoners march or
    stand at attention in rain, snow, and ice for hours. As you
    can imagine, death came often due to the conditions.

    Q.) Do you have residual fears? How do you feel about German
    re-unification?

    A.) I have nightmares constantly. I recently dreamed that a
    guard grabbed me. My wife's arm touched my face, and I
    unfortunately bit her severely. German re-unification, in my
    opinion, will be the basis for another war. The Germans,
    regardless of what their present leadership says, will want
    their lost territories back, East Prussia, Silesia, and
    Danzig (Gdansk). My family history goes back over 700 years
    in Germany. I understand all too well what the politicians
    do not want the people to be thinking about.

    Q.) You mentioned you were shot and stabbed several times.
    Were these experiments, punishment or torture?

    A.) They were punishment. I very often, in a fit of temper,
    acted while the brain was not in gear. The sorry results
    were two 9 mm bullets in my knees. Fortunately, one of the
    prisoners had a fingernail file and was able to dig the
    slugs out. In another situation, I was stabbed in the
    washroom of room #1, Block 16. Twice in a struggle where I
    nearly lost my right thumb. A German prisoner Hans Wissing,
    who after the war became mayor of his home town,
    Leinsweiler, witnessed the whole situation. We stayed in
    touch until a few months ago, when he died.

    Q.) Do you remember some of the steps taken by the Nazis to
    de-humanize people and to make them feel hopeless? How were
    people robbed of their dignity?

    A.) If you had treated an animal in Germany the way we
    were treated, you would have been jailed. For example, a
    guard or a group of them would single out a prisoner and
    beat him with canes or a club. Sometimes to further
    terrorize a prisoner, the guards would form a circle around
    a prisoner and beat him unconscious. There were cases of a
    prisoner being told to report to the Revier ("Hospital") and
    being forced to drink a quart of castor oil. Believe me,
    this is a lousy, painful, wretched way to die. You develop
    extreme diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, and severe dehydration.
    If the Nazis wanted you to live and suffer more, they would
    take measures to rehydrate the victim.

    Q.) What was the routine like at Dachau?

    A.) Three times a day, we were counted. We had to carry the
    dead to the square. Each time, we had to stand at attention
    in all kinds of weather. We stood wearing next to nothing,
    had weak bladders, while our tormentors had sheepskin coats
    and felt boots. The bastards really enjoyed watching us
    suffer. I remember how the guards had a good laugh when one
    of them "accidentally" let loose with a machine gun, killing
    about 30 prisoners.

    Q.) What did people do to try to adjust to Dachau? Keep
    their spirits up?

    A.) There were some actors, comedians, and musicians among
    us. Sometimes they would clandestinely perform. One of the
    musicians got hold of a violin and played for us. To this
    day, it remains a mystery how he got his hands on a violin.
    I still keep in touch with other prisoners. I am a member of
    the Dachau Prisoners Association. Each year I go back to
    Germany to visit.

    Q.) Did people ever successfully escape? Do you remember
    acts of bravery?

    A.) Nobody escaped, only in the movies does the "hero"
    escape. Guards received extra leave time for killing
    prisoners that got too close to the fence. I do, however,
    think all prisoners were heroes in their own way. Especially
    the German prisoners, for they would not acquiesce to the
    Nazis. They suffered greatly too.

    Q.) Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only
    we were armed before, we would not be here now"?

    A.) Many, many times. Before Adolph Hitler came to power,
    there was a black market in firearms, but the German people
    had been so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would
    never consider buying an unregistered gun. The German people
    really believed that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools
    we were. It truly frightens me to see how the government,
    media, and some police groups in America are pushing for the
    same mindset. In my opinion, the people of America had
    better start asking and demanding answers to some hard
    questions about firearms ownership, especially if the
    government does not trust me to own firearms, why or how can
    the people be expected to trust the government? There is no
    doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been
    saved if the people were not "brainwashed" about gun
    ownership and had been well armed. Hitler's thugs and goons
    were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun haters
    always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a
    perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews
    took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazis.


    End of Interview
    First of all I doubt Theodore Hass ever existed.... there might be a million guys out there with that name....but the guy being interviewed is who I am taking about..... and lets just say for whatever reason that he did give an interview somewhere.... Id have to imagine that the last question was never asked or he was paid to answer it the way he did.

    Warsaw uprising resulted in 10,000 dead jews....the town razed and only about 2 dozen nazis dead..... Now who got their butts handed to them.......

    When I see statements....or misinformation like this in a "story"... and then cant find any references to the story teller or the interview except the same exact wording on pro gun sites...... It makes me suspicious.

    The Jews handed over their guns without a fight.....and so will america.... no matter how many of these email and blog stories get passed around.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzuRXy_Kij8


    One of my all time favorites......

    And corney get your butt to the range and stop making excuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanko View Post
    And what's better to equalize a beat down than a good pistol AKA an equalizer
    You betcha! The pen is only mightier than the sword if that sword is not being swung directly at you. When that sword is being used against you, you'd better have something more than a pen if you expect to survive.
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    ...masquerading as its own cure…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    But it is the fear that causes you to strap on a gun.
    what fear???


    So our military carries two rifles in one. When it is in single shot it is a sporting rifle and when in full auto it magically turns into an assault rifle. Simply by switching between those two modes of operation. So you are saying in single shot it is no better than any other rifle at quickly shooting multiple people in close quarters? And soldiers across the line would agree with you on that? I doubt it. Actually, a soldier probably rarely uses full auto because of inaccuracy, uncontrollability, climbing, depletion of ammo and the defenselessness of needing to immediately reload. But hey, I’m not a military guy so you can respond any way you want to that.
    actually YES!!! they carry one rifle, it's called "select fire" the soldier has the option of *SAFE* *fire* or *full* The modern soldier has the option of semi-automatic or full automatic fire.

    There is one other distinction that should be made. The Military carbine (M4, M16 style) uses ONLY 5.56 x 45mm ammunition with a FMJBT Projectile (Full metal Jacket-Boat tail) in accordance with the Geneva Convention



    Name a law that is not about control and perception.
    Nope. It’s about portraying some of the guns you own as bad, scary and unnecessary. To you not even a 50 cal or a Mac 10 is scary and unnecessary so your opinion on this is skewed.
    why would a 50cal be scary, it is the most common Black powder cartridge in the U.S.? or If your referring to the Barret 50 M82 BMG, why would that be scary, can you site ONE INSTANCE in which the 50cal was used in a crime or even a Mac-10.

    I have no use for either weapon, but if you want to own one I have no problem with that.
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    The Last four letters


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    what fear???
    The fear you keep inferring you would have if you were involved in an incident while not being armed.

    actually YES!!! they carry one rifle, it's called "select fire" the soldier has the option of *SAFE* *fire* or *full* The modern soldier has the option of semi-automatic or full automatic fire.
    You avoided my point. Whichever mode it is in, it is still an assault rifle.

    …why would that be scary, can you site ONE INSTANCE in which the 50cal was used in a crime or even a Mac-10.
    No 50 cal because it is too cumbersome. No Mac 10’s because they are probably too expensive to own, not readily available, not getting stolen out of homes and supplying the black market. They also specialize in killing in a “spraying” manner. Most crimes are one-on-one. Machine guns probably aren’t that good during crimes anyway. Could you kill more people in a movie theatre with twenty bullets out of a machine gun or a semi-auto? Can the average soldier aim and control his assault rifle or his pistol during a raid on a closed quarter assault?

    I have no use for either weapon, but if you want to own one I have no problem with that.
    And for that view it puts you in the minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    The fear you keep inferring you would have if you were involved in an incident while not being armed.
    I NEVER inferred I was afraid of anything, you did.



    You avoided my point. Whichever mode it is in, it is still an assault rifle.

    nope, I answered your question, I actually went beyond your question. You simply don't want to acknowledge I answered it. Which brings to mind.

    YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION: why does changing the stock on a standard AR-15 change the legal definition from "assault rifle" to a Legal Modern sporting rifle

    No 50 cal because it is too cumbersome. No Mac 10’s because they are probably too expensive to own, not readily available, not getting stolen out of homes and supplying the black market. They also specialize in killing in a “spraying” manner. Most crimes are one-on-one. Machine guns probably aren’t that good during crimes anyway. Could you kill more people in a movie theatre with twenty bullets out of a machine gun or a semi-auto? Can the average soldier aim and control his assault rifle or his pistol during a raid on a closed quarter assault?

    seriously, WTF???? So you have absolutely no clue what your talking about. First you tell us assault rifles are the preferred method of killing people and now your saying they are not that good at killing people.....

    seriously dude, WTF is wrong with you. Are you Bi-polar or something? Or do you simply troll internet forums just to argue with no way to make a point, other than you don't have clue


    And for that view it puts you in the minority
    only in your microcosm, which of course no one cares about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    If you had been paying attention you would know. The DHS, IRS, Forest Service, and a host of other government agencies started buying up ammo a year ago and continue to place orders by the millions and millions of rounds. Agencies that have no real need for firearms including the postal service are creating agency ammo dumps. The total in ammo so far has exceeded a billion rounds. None of this is for any branch of the military.

    Gee, you would think something is up.
    Your post reads exactly the same as one of gahvactechs goofy, paranoid, easily refuted pass-along e-mails.

    Let's see what the real facts are.

    From the office of Lynn Westmoreland (Rep.) 3rd District of Georgia.

    http://westmoreland.house.gov/index....642&Itemid=372

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Point of order there JP you left out State's rights IE. the 10th Amendment. We wouldn't have all the problems we have today if we still had "State's Rights". Thank you very much
    Agree Glenn... Problem is:

    Folks have to UNDERSTAND the Constitution... AND care... AND get involved... for state's rights to be an issue (again). How many of us here at ARP Are actively involved in shaping politics, policy, and law? The answer to that question is how much longer freedom will prevail in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Point of order there JP you left out State's rights IE. the 10th Amendment. We wouldn't have all the problems we have today if we still had "State's Rights". Thank you very much
    Channelling old OxyRush again eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearthman View Post
    Over 2,500 posts and all the Left can come up with is monkey chatter.

    There is still no credible evidence gun control of any kind reduces gun violence.
    There is no credible evidence free ownership by law abiding citizens results in any increase in gun violence
    There is no credible evidence to show one particular class or type of firearm to the exclusion of all others is responsible for gun violence
    There is no credible evidence that this Administration has or intends to enforce any laws they don't like

    There is credible evidence that restricting access to guns for responsible legal owners does result in an increase in victims of crime and murders
    There is credible evidence that removing access to guns for responsible legal owners does reduce violent crime and burglaries


    There has been no genuine discussion by the Left recognizing the problem is the culture they created is responsible for people going nuts and feeling gun violence is how you handle disagreements, feelings of inferiority, rejection, wrongs, guilt or other negative feelings. We have created The New Deal, The Great Society and just as we predicted in the 60s, this is the result and everyone is surprised. We had a War on Poverty that resulted in an increase in Poverty. We have federal money spent on midnight basketball courts when most shootings take place. We have broken homes with no penalties for broken marriages but plenty for having huge families you cannot support or love on your own. We have courts that refuse to enforce the laws of the land and release dangerous criminals to prey again--our courts created a new term:"repeat offender" instead of "dead offender".

    We have a government that has done all it can it sweep away the sanctity of life then wonder why no one respects life

    We have lawless presidents who's job it is to enforce the laws of the land yet they refuse to enforce them, side step laws and the Constitution that they swore an oath to protect and defend, then we wonder why our kids don't respect authority.

    We have a government that has done all it can to abolish God and Christian values then wonders why the world is going insane.

    Yes, we need protection. We need protection from the bad people this government has spawned, fed, and groomed to be bad. We need a deterrent to crime so some of these monsters are less likely to mess with us. Most importantly, we need protection from a tyrannical government that seeks to strip away all our rights and leave us defenseless against our enemies including especially them. Which is more of a threat to you: the thug pondering doing you harm or the politician handcuffing you and serving you up on a platter for the kill? Next time you watch one of those nature shows where the sharks go into a feeding frenzy slashing into schools of fish just substitute yourself for one of those fish. You have no defense and no deterrent to prevent attack. It then becomes a matter of chance. What two fish do sharks fear? Dolphins because they fight back by head butting and can kill a shark but sharks fear killer whales because orcas have superior firepower. So it goes in the jungle.
    What two fish do sharks fear? You made this statement and did not give the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    The answer to that question is how much longer freedom will prevail in this country.
    Well, the FEMA camps are almost complete and the black helicopters are all fueled up and ready to go. So it looks like freedom is swirling down the toilet (at least for folks who refuse to pledge allegiance to the Obamanation) as we speak.

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