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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    I think Hawaii also...
    http://www.handgunlaw.us/

    Actually, Hawaii is a "MAY issue" state as are most "anti-gun" states.

    DC is the only other place where CC is prohibited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Hawaii doesn't count. Hawaiians don't even consider themselves part of the U.S. Just ask Obama
    I have a friend who lives there... transplanted from Alaska.

    Guy left his guns with someone... cause he was told they would be confiscated when they hit the shores.

    As in Chicago: In Hawaii if you are govt or important... you get all the firearm protection you want. If you are common folk... you are denied the right to protect yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Hawaii doesn't count. Hawaiians don't even consider themselves part of the U.S. Just ask Obama
    Should never have let Hawaii become a state. There was a lot of opposition to statehood. It was blocked for many years by conservative Southern Democrats because of the far left politicians in Hawaii.

    The territorial "Democratic"Party (a coalition
    of liberal Democrats, radical labor unions and the Communist Party of Hawaii) were the delegates to Congress. LBJ at the time led the opposition (then overnight he turned and became a socialist). Shame they lost that battle.

    They saw that Hawaii was in the pocket of leftest labor unions and the Communist Party had a strong presence there. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    ok Im going to say what everyone seems to be dancing around:

    What the anti-gun nuts are worried about is something they can't control, the brain of a deranged individual. So they go after the only thing they think they can control, the law abiding citizen. It is literally the only thing that is tangible to them

    It's like when I moved in with my girlfriend 22 years a go(soon to be wife) my MIL was so mad that her little Catholic girl was living in sin 400 miles away, the only thing she could do was ground my SIL (who was 15 at the time) I had a good laugh over that one

    The other thing that is driving the anti-gun nuts crazy is the unbelievably miniscule possibility that someday a Legally armed individual will "lose it" and start shooting up the place (which BTW has never happened)

    If your going to live in a society of 310+ million people, a few are going to fall through the cracks and kill someone. It happens everyday with cars and alcohol. It's going to happen with guns. Period. Its just something your going to have to live with.

    The only thing you can do about it is to be prepared. Have a defensive tool of your own, throw them the bird and have at it. Your chances of dieing in a car are 17 time higher than dieing from a GSW (gun shot wound)

    Im done with this BS, talking to anti-freedom-gun grabbing-misinformed people is like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    ok Im going to say what everyone seems to be dancing around:

    What the anti-gun nuts are worried about is something they can't control, the brain of a deranged individual. So they go after the only thing they think they can control, the law abiding citizen. It is literally the only thing that is tangible to them

    It's like when I moved in with my girlfriend 22 years a go(soon to be wife) my MIL was so mad that her little Catholic girl was living in sin 400 miles away, the only thing she could do was ground my SIL (who was 15 at the time) I had a good laugh over that one

    The other thing that is driving the anti-gun nuts crazy is the unbelievably miniscule possibility that someday a Legally armed individual will "lose it" and start shooting up the place (which BTW has never happened)

    If your going to live in a society of 310+ million people, a few are going to fall through the cracks and kill someone. It happens everyday with cars and alcohol. It's going to happen with guns. Period. Its just something your going to have to live with.

    The only thing you can do about it is to be prepared. Have a defensive tool of your own, throw them the bird and have at it. Your chances of dieing in a car are 17 time higher than dieing from a GSW (gun shot wound)

    Im done with this BS, talking to anti-freedom-gun grabbing-misinformed people is like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

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    Very, very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    ok Im going to say what everyone seems to be dancing around:

    What the anti-gun nuts are worried about is something they can't control, the brain of a deranged individual. So they go after the only thing they think they can control, the law abiding citizen. It is literally the only thing that is tangible to them

    It's like when I moved in with my girlfriend 22 years a go(soon to be wife) my MIL was so mad that her little Catholic girl was living in sin 400 miles away, the only thing she could do was ground my SIL (who was 15 at the time) I had a good laugh over that one

    The other thing that is driving the anti-gun nuts crazy is the unbelievably miniscule possibility that someday a Legally armed individual will "lose it" and start shooting up the place (which BTW has never happened)

    If your going to live in a society of 310+ million people, a few are going to fall through the cracks and kill someone. It happens everyday with cars and alcohol. It's going to happen with guns. Period. Its just something your going to have to live with.

    The only thing you can do about it is to be prepared. Have a defensive tool of your own, throw them the bird and have at it. Your chances of dieing in a car are 17 time higher than dieing from a GSW (gun shot wound)

    Im done with this BS, talking to anti-freedom-gun grabbing-misinformed people is like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

    Have fun, good luck, stay sharp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    I have a friend who lives there... transplanted from Alaska.

    Guy left his guns with someone... cause he was told they would be confiscated when they hit the shores.

    As in Chicago: In Hawaii if you are govt or important... you get all the firearm protection you want. If you are common folk... you are denied the right to protect yourself.
    Just looked up the statistics on firearm murder rates by state. Seems Hawaii is ten to twenty times lower than the rest of the country.

    Gun crimes by US states

    Rates per 100,000 population

    United States.......2.75 per 100,000

    Hawaii.................0.07 per 100,000
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...crime-us-state
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Should never have let Hawaii become a state. There was a lot of opposition to statehood. It was blocked for many years by conservative Southern Democrats because of the far left politicians in Hawaii.

    The territorial "Democratic"Party (a coalition
    of liberal Democrats, radical labor unions and the Communist Party of Hawaii) were the delegates to Congress. LBJ at the time led the opposition (then overnight he turned and became a socialist). Shame they lost that battle.

    They saw that Hawaii was in the pocket of leftest labor unions and the Communist Party had a strong presence there. Thank you, thank you very much
    Come on now, Glenn. The Southern Democrats didn't want Hawaii to be a state because Hawaiians are not White. It seems a bit odd that you, of all people, would be supporting something that was led by Lyndon Johnson....I'm just saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Just looked up the statistics on firearm murder rates by state. Seems Hawaii is ten to twenty times lower than the rest of the country.
    And I was thinking that being gun free there would be a rampant amount of drive-by shootings, home invasions, rapes, robberies, car jackings and tourist hold-ups. Without guns they should be worse than Juarez, MX.

    How can they keep crime down without everyone carrying a deadly weapon under their jacket? How can people sleep at night? Do they all have bars on their windows? Maybe Neighborhood Watch on every corner or ten times the police presence?

    Just when these guys were convincing me to strap on a sidearm to do my share as a red blooded patriot I’m all confused again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    And I was thinking that being gun free there would be a rampant amount of drive-by shootings, home invasions, rapes, robberies, car jackings and tourist hold-ups. Without guns they should be worse than Juarez, MX.

    How can they keep crime down without everyone carrying a deadly weapon under their jacket? How can people sleep at night? Do they all have bars on their windows? Maybe Neighborhood Watch on every corner or ten times the police presence?

    Just when these guys were convincing me to strap on a sidearm to do my share as a red blooded patriot I’m all confused again.
    I missed the part where you weren't confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolkahuna View Post
    I missed the part where you weren't confused...
    Heck, Brian still thinks the AWB is about magazines...



    It stands to reason that he would think that we're stating that the ONLY reason for a low crime rate is concealed carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Just looked up the statistics on firearm murder rates by state. Seems Hawaii is ten to twenty times lower than the rest of the country.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Heck, Brian still thinks the AWB is about magazines...



    It stands to reason that he would think that we're stating that the ONLY reason for a low crime rate is concealed carry.
    Thats because its all the ccw crowd has done on this thread.... Ive not seen anyone come forth and say that it isnt all ccw permits slowing down crime.. all I have seen it is ccw is the only reason to bring down crime.
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