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    School shootings

    I just emailed a couple of congressman in my district to consider passing new legislation.
    It's not for gun control. I don't believe in that.
    But I do believe that we can make schools safer by two ways.
    One locking down every school during session. Yes the kids can go outside for recess. But no one can just walk in without showing ID and being buzzed in by the administration.
    Second would be to post an armed guard at the door to every school building.
    I realize it would be a huge financial burden but its worth it. I would even ve willing to pay more in taxes to make this happen. Our kids are worth it.
    Third, former military personnel would get top priority for these positions. We have too many unemployed vets that are looking for work. This would be a boost for them and our economy by employing thousands of guards.
    If you agree email your congressman.
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    Having guns at a school is not the answer.

    FWIW, My kids school is locked during the day, but if you walk up to the door they just buzz you in and report to a "guard".

    So Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolWine View Post
    Having guns at a school is not the answer.

    FWIW, My kids school is locked during the day, but if you walk up to the door they just buzz you in and report to a "guard".

    So Sad.
    Having guns in school is not the same as having an armed guard. I'm not advocating arming the teachers.

    Your kids school needs tighter control.

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    Every school I work at (probably 40 or so) are locked up with exception of the front door that's generally very near the office. I'm not sure when they started doing this, but ever since I've been working in schools, this has been the "norm" (approx 6 years). That is even true for a school that's about 60 miles from any town larger than a gas station and a store.

    I don't think an armed (and trained) guard would be a bad idea. It'd sure be nice if that wasn't needed, but the way things are going something has to happen.

    This year alone, in my home town there have been a handful of reports of someone trying to get a kid to hop in their car to abduct them. People are strange, always have been, but there's more crazies out there than there have ever been.
    The biggest help is awareness. If everyone in and around schools pays more attention, it's bound to help. Obviously not the cure-all answer, but it'll help. With as much as I'm in schools, I pray I never have to see anything like what happened today, but I have a bad feeling with the 30+ years of my career left, I will to some extent.
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2298430.html

    I don't find any comfort in the above story from China, but apparently we don't have all the crazies here.

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    Heard a caller on Hannity today suggest same idea.
    Locked doors aren't enough. Today's shooter was buzzed in by the principal.

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    We protect our money with multiple armed guards.

    We protect our children with magnetic locks and 'feel-good' gun free zones.

    Our priorities are bass-ackwards.

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    For all you guys younger than I am, we used to have a solution. It was simple.

    Ready?

    You don't let crazy people walk around.

    That's it.

    Simple.

    The ACLU said that we can't do that anymore, so we have all these nut jobs, and the gun, an inanimate object, gets blamed.

    If this woman's son had been identified as a loon and placed in protective custody, ALL of those people would be alive, right now.

    Ask yourself, how many crimes are done using a gun that is legally owned?

    I can't remember the last time I saw one mentioned on the news in my town. That's because criminals and crazies don't care if we have a new gun law, or not. All they need to do is to go into town and ask the right person.

    So, for Bob Costas and his ilk, "it's not the gun, stupid."
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    Well Ny2G... there are lots of folks in the Metro Atlanta area who have the credentials, the hardware, and most important the training to carry and protect life. The streets are safer because of this small yet dedicated group.

    We need to back off the Rambo stuff for a while... There are folks out there who have suffered their worst nightmare... If we are indeed the folks we think we are... we should feel a little sympathy for them... WITHOUT letting our guard down and letting the polecats get away with anything.

    One can truly be empathetic with someone for their loss... without getting taken in a moment of weakness.

    After folks have time to grieve... we can decide what to do about folks who do not respect others lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Well Ny2G... there are lots of folks in the Metro Atlanta area who have the credentials, the hardware, and most important the training to carry and protect life. The streets are safer because of this small yet dedicated group.

    We need to back off the Rambo stuff for a while... There are folks out there who have suffered their worst nightmare... If we are indeed the folks we think we are... we should feel a little sympathy for them... WITHOUT letting our guard down and letting the polecats get away with anything.

    One can truly be empathetic with someone for their loss... without getting taken in a moment of weakness.

    After folks have time to grieve... we can decide what to do about folks who do not respect others lives.
    I don't see the Rambo attitdue on my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY2GA01 View Post
    I don't see the Rambo attitdue on my part.
    YET...
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    Sorry for your loss TB... I am sure days like today have a special pain for you.

    GA says after we allow folks to grieve for a short time... we need to encourage folks to take back America... legally.
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    Many of you may not like this idea but if everyone carried a gun this guy would have been stopped. People need to train themselves on how to use and carry a firearm. People would think twice before committing crimes if they knew they were taking a big chance pulling out a gun.


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