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  1. 12-13-2012, 10:48 AM #1
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    Walk-In Freezer Not Holding Temp

    Found the system COMPLETELY flat on Charge. Looks like someone tried something clever. Them clever guys are turning out to be my best referral source...

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  2. 12-13-2012, 12:50 PM #2
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    Is that the magic "solder"? Doesn't look like there's anything on there!?
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  3. 12-13-2012, 12:58 PM #3
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    No way!
    Solder compound? The stuff in a red bottle?

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    WTF is that? Some type of glue?
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    It was working when I left...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamersoutdoor View Post
    No way!
    Solder compound? The stuff in a red bottle?

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    Srry,
    "Solderless Copper Bonding"

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  6. 12-13-2012, 06:52 PM #6
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    I thought it was called:
    HVAC Super Pro

    Or something stupid like that. I remember reading "you'll ask: what did we do with leaks in walls, before hvac super pro?"
    We used a dang torch. and people were happy at the end of the day.

    That product should be named HVAC Super Hack.
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

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    I don't know what product it was. It was red, resembled a Loctite product, and I was able to break all joinings with only my hands. Whatever they used, it didn't work.
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  8. 12-14-2012, 01:31 AM #8
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    I've used the HVAC superpro on boiler water pipes once. They were in a wall an needed to be cut and capped and I had to work entirely by feel, they could not be seen to use a torch. It worked excellently.

    The stuff I used was purple in color so it probably is not what was used in this case.

    The SuperPro has like 10 warnings all over it that you must sand the fitting with coarse grit cloth and LEAVE THE FILINGS on the pipe and fittings. If you wipe them off it won't harden properly.
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    So was the drier and solenoid put in recently or has it actually been able to run for a while with all the joints glued together with red loctite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike19 View Post
    So was the drier and solenoid put in recently or has it actually been able to run for a while with all the joints glued together with red loctite?
    One branch of a chain we picked up several months ago, first visit there. Have to assume it ran for a while.
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  11. 12-15-2012, 02:03 PM #11
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    That is so bad it isn't even funny it's sad No pride at all!

    Did the red magic glue make it hard to solder it? How much of a charge did he loose?
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  12. 12-16-2012, 02:02 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolMech View Post
    That is so bad it isn't even funny it's sad No pride at all!

    Did the red magic glue make it hard to solder it? How much of a charge did he loose?
    I was concerned about bits and chunks of that stuff finding its way into the TXV, so the solenoid valve and all copper in that section were replaced. With a torch and silfos. One jug of R404a later, had a cold freezer.

    It's too bad, it would be really cool if there were some 'magic glue' that actually worked.
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