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12-11-2012, 09:14 PM #1
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Tight house or oversized furnace?
Last night while watching TV I decided to time my furnace run times because I'm in the market for a new furnace that I'm thinking about going down in size.
Results: cycle 1, 5 min 10 sec furnace on 34 min 12 sec off
Cycle 2, 5 min 52 seconds on 33 min 35 sec off
It's fairly cold here now, 5 degrees F at the time I was doing the timing.
Equipment: 92.5% 67k btu furnace, Broan-Nutone HEPA HRV, t stat is set to 70 and it turns heat on at 69 and back off at 70
Im in the market for a new furnace and I'm thinking about going to a 45k but contractors seem hesitant to go that low for my home, but based on my unscientific test on run times I think I'll be just fine! What do you think? Is my furnace too big or is my house just well insulated? Thanks for your input!
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12-11-2012, 09:30 PM #2
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it get much colder than 5 deg up there? And what was the wind like? The wind will make a big difference.
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12-11-2012, 09:44 PM #3
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It does get much colder than 5*, -15 to -20 on rare occasions, but with such short run times it seems there's some room to work with, also wind was light around 5 mph.
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12-11-2012, 09:47 PM #4
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I want a furnace that actually runs to keep a slow trickle of heat from the vents. When on for such a short time it isn't that comfortable.
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12-11-2012, 10:08 PM #5
Go down a size...or look at a combi boiler with outdoor reset control for even more even heating when paired with a hydronic air handler. You can also add a heat pump and gondfual fuel and have even lower output in mild wearher. You not far from design temp but only using less than 20% capacity. You should habe no trtoublke with a 45k unit. You probably only need maybe 30k or less even at-10f.
It not suprising. I only need 65k in a 3500sqft house with moderate insulation and lots of windows at 0f.
You have a very well insulasted home.
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12-11-2012, 10:09 PM #6
Btw... great to hear a home owner that gets it...the benfit of smaller being better and more comfortable.
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12-12-2012, 02:13 PM #7
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The cure of the part should not be attempted without the cure of the whole. ~Plato
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12-12-2012, 02:47 PM #8
I would consider a modulating furnace. The Lennox is really nice. This furnace can fire from 35% of its capacity to 100% in 1% increments. I would but in the 70,000 btu. and let it do its thing. Also its 98% eff.
As iron sharpens iron so one man sharpens another Proverbs 27:17 NIV84
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12-12-2012, 03:02 PM #9
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rather than guessing about how tight the house/duct system is...
have a blower door & duct test done.
otherwise it is just a wag.
best of luck.The cure of the part should not be attempted without the cure of the whole. ~Plato
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12-12-2012, 04:08 PM #10
Might want to look into a York mod. From 35% to 100%, in .5% increases, and comes in a 60,000 BTU size, so you aren't getting a furnace larger then you already have.
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12-12-2012, 09:23 PM #11
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The fact that your house has an HRV tells me the builder/insulator probably made an effort to make the house tight. 45K is more than plenty for a tight house. You have a 67k now because the HVAC contractor that installed it was scared to trust the insulation effectiveness.
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12-13-2012, 04:30 AM #12
X3 moto.
So you want a furnace that works like a faucet not a firehose, you want range. I think BT might have nailed it, that furnace may drop the lowest. 20k I think?Which makes more sense to you?
CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%
DO THE NUMBERS! Step on a HOMESCALE.
What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!
Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to BPI.org, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.
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12-13-2012, 05:04 PM #13
21,000 input.


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