Why Romney lost

[Tool-Slinger]

Folks get what they vote for... democracy is not the best system. When we learn that... we may do better.

We do not have a democracy, it is a republic.

Your point?

I agree democracy is a bad idea, but I am not convinced our republic is panning out real well either.

[Tool-Slinger]

Yeah well only if you can't comprehend the difference between night and day. Of course for some this apparently is a problem. Thank you, thank you very much

Actually incoherence is a common condition Glennac;



Some people do this all the time, they stick their heads in the sand like ostriches and refuse to see the realities of the day. I know, reality sucks sometimes, but as the saying goes buddy,"It is what it is".

[ga-hvac-tech]

We do not have a democracy, it is a republic.

Your point?

I agree democracy is a bad idea, but I am not convinced our republic is panning out real well either.

I agree, a republic would be a better system... however while the founding documents say we have a republic... we do not function like a republic... and most folks think it is a democracy.

First (IMO) we need to educate the voters as to the difference (it is quite simple):
Three wolves and a sheep are discussing dinner... and decide to vote... that is democracy... Still think it is a good idea?
In a republic, each of the wolves would have to recognize the right of the sheep to NOT be dinner.

Now lets take this into current politics:
In a democracy; if a special interest (small minority) manages to BUY legislation... they get their way at the expense of the majority (some democracy... ).
In a republic; that special legislation is judged on its merits for the ENTIRE society... not advancing one's political career by allowing oneself to be bought.

The catch to both forms of govt is: The voters have to have moral and ethical standards... without them, the quality of a free society crumbles.

GA believes this country got what they deserved last month... and until we raise our standards (a personal choice), we will continue to get what we deserve.

Sorry to be blunt... maybe it is time we all take off the PC blinders and think a bit more clearly...

[printer2]

In a democracy; if a special interest (small minority) manages to BUY legislation... they get their way at the expense of the majority (some democracy... ).
In a republic; that special legislation is judged on its merits for the ENTIRE society... not advancing one's political career by allowing oneself to be bought.

Doubt it, in a republic it is also the money that gets their way at the expense of the majority. It is just the way of business.

[Tool-Slinger]

Doubt it, in a republic it is also the money that gets their way at the expense of the majority. It is just the way of business.

I pretty much agree I think. Either way money can corrupt. Either way votes can be bought.


Now a pure republic makes more practical sense than a pure democracy by far, the latter has correctly been referred to as 'mob rule'. But there is no pure anything I am aware of, just mixed elements of the two.

I may or may not be wandering off topic, but I do believe very strongly that serious voter restrictions would vastly improve the health or even the very survival chances of either. Probably topic for a new thread, I may have read something into GA's post that was not there.

[ga-hvac-tech]

I pretty much agree I think. Either way money can corrupt. Either way votes can be bought.


Now a pure republic makes more practical sense than a pure democracy by far, the latter has correctly been referred to as 'mob rule'. But there is no pure anything I am aware of, just mixed elements of the two.

I may or may not be wandering off topic, but I do believe very strongly that serious voter restrictions would vastly improve the health or even the very survival chances of either. Probably topic for a new thread, I may have read something into GA's post that was not there.

That happens a lot... GA does not communicate as well as he should/could...

In some thread, there was a video with a so called educated guy giving a bunch of things a libertarian (he called it liberal) stands for. Might be a good addition to this thread.

[energy star]

Romney at the Pacquaio-Marquez fight, ring side.

[geerair]

I am assuming someone not worthy of reading for a variety of reasons:
Afraid to post their location

So, according to gahvactech's view, the quality of a post is not measured by its compelling logic, factual statements, interesting writing style, sense of humor or relevance but rather it is judged on the completeness of a member profile on an internet forum.

One wonders if the moon is made of Sharp Cheddar in gahvactech's bizzare universe.

Welshes on wagers... now

Old gahvactech sure does seem to know all about my posts considering he has me on his ignore list.

Afraid to make wagers

So I welsh on wagers that I am too afraid to make?

Never posts in HVAC, only in ARP,

Not my fault gahvactech is a newbie. In the young days of this website those of us here posted in all areas.

I suspect during the time I was posting in all areas of this forum gahvactech was over at pass-along e-mails-talk.com whining about the lack of member contact information.

[the mojo]

Joe Bama came to town yesterday,but did'nt bring no bacon.But Andy Dillion Treasurer for the the State will be bring his style of bacon in 30 days.



Direct quotation from Dillion who is a Democrat. "Its taken 30 or 40 years for this to happen".