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    Hill Phoenix

    (Smart Valve ) anyone servicing these ?

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    You mean the Hill Phoenix SMS system.

    The Electronic Expansion valve that requires a FREE software download and an outrageously priced USB Dongle to program or communicate with?

    The same system that they're installing on their Glycol "semi-self-contained" systems, attaching the controller to the bottom of the drip pan and wondering why they burn out?

    Nope.... Never worked on one....... This week....





    Whaddya need to know?

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    If you service these it would be wise to carry a temp sensor and a pressure transducer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangpgt97 View Post
    If you service these it would be wise to carry a temp sensor and a pressure transducer.

    I'd carry a couple transducers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I'd carry a couple transducers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    You mean the Hill Phoenix SMS system.

    The Electronic Expansion valve that requires a FREE software download and an outrageously priced USB Dongle to program or communicate with?

    The same system that they're installing on their Glycol "semi-self-contained" systems, attaching the controller to the bottom of the drip pan and wondering why they burn out?

    Nope.... Never worked on one....... This week....





    Whaddya need to know?
    Sounds like the same setup. The way I'm seeing it you have to use a IR device that plugs into ones laptop then shoot it at the possessor. This is the only way to reprogram it for a different refrigerant use. That's not what I'm after though. Was just curious if one can troubleshoot the plugins. I know the first thing I need to do with the one I'm working on is to get the outdoor unit on some type of head pressure control. Will these valves hunt like the mechanical valves ? How much is the dongle ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    Sounds like the same setup. The way I'm seeing it you have to use a IR device that plugs into ones laptop then shoot it at the possessor. This is the only way to reprogram it for a different refrigerant use. That's not what I'm after though. Was just curious if one can troubleshoot the plugins. I know the first thing I need to do with the one I'm working on is to get the outdoor unit on some type of head pressure control. Will these valves hunt like the mechanical valves ? How much is the dongle ?
    I suppose that wild swings in system operating conditions could make the valve hunt, but under relatively constant conditions, they're TIGHT! They'll run a nice, low superheat and keep it pretty tightly controlled with a minimum of hunting.

    My understanding was that the dongle was about $400. I didn't buy it, though.

    I suppose that you could troubleshoot these systems by 'guess and golly' but I've found that a laptop and the dongle make it much easier and more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I suppose that wild swings in system operating conditions could make the valve hunt, but under relatively constant conditions, they're TIGHT! They'll run a nice, low superheat and keep it pretty tightly controlled with a minimum of hunting.

    My understanding was that the dongle was about $400. I didn't buy it, though.

    I suppose that you could troubleshoot these systems by 'guess and golly' but I've found that a laptop and the dongle make it much easier and more accurate.
    Thanks jp,
    So it sounds like you got your company to shell out the shillings for you....nice. Unfortunately this cheap a$$ is not going to do that. I'm twisting his arm just to get a fan cycling control on it. I would much rather pipe in a proper head pressure control. This reach-in is using R404a at medium temp. What should the coil temp. be running at ? I was at about 15* if I remember correctly. Hill Phoenix is showing a 6-8* superheat. I was getting a yellow/red led which is a high superheat code. Also the case is on a time clock for time defrost is that necessary ?
    Thanks VTP

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    We carry a Q body kit for these gems

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    Hill Phoenix and smart don't belong in the same sentence, not even the same thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmira View Post
    We carry a Q body kit for these gems
    The thought crossed my mind. But what a shame to waste all that advanced technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phase Loss View Post
    Hill Phoenix and smart don't belong in the same sentence, not even the same thread.

    You must be a Kysor/Warren or Hussmann guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    You must be a Kysor/Warren or Hussmann guy.
    Neither.

    It's just, I had recent bad experience with Hill is all.

    I like Zero Zone stuff.

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