Made in America
If you wanted to compete with Wal- Mart would it be a good Idea to advertise that 90% of what you sell is made in America ? Say K Mart / Sears decided to reorganize, and attracted investors on the premise of MADE IN AMERICA. They remodeled their stores and started a huge marketing program of made in America . Would you shop there over Wal Mart, or even a Target Would you think in this business climate that this would be a good Idea ?? just dreaming what do you think ? would made in America get you in the store ?
I would be willing to take a look at a made in America store. But if I went in and saw I had to pay twice as much for the same quality then I would walk right out. If all things are equal, I would buy American, but in the end I will buy what I think is the best value for my money.
You also have to consider that made in America doesn't always mean better. Look at what happened to the american auto industy. The Japs kicked our asses in quality and americans abandoned american cars in droves.
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I think this is an interesting idea. Sadly, they would likely have problems finding enough products to stock the store with, since the manufacturing of so many things has been shipped out of our country. I know that there would be very little in the way of electronics and toys....
Originally Posted by Roncool
Personally, I do try to buy USA made products when available and the price differential isn't too great. I'm usually willing to pay a 10%-15% surcharge on items made in the USA if they are of equal or better quality. Sometimes more if the quality is much better (e.g. hand tools).
Maybe getting a chain store to do something like this could bring some manufacturing back. We need to do something besides grow the government!
Last edited by jrevans; 11-27-2012 at 10:23 AM.
Perhaps I am raising the bar on the 90% made in America rule for my make believe store . Perhaps 30% of products would need to be made outside of America. It seems to me that we could make it here as cheep as overseas as shipping product from over seas can not be cheep. I would think some of that cost could be recovered by not having product shipped from over seas. I would also think that the fed government could step in to help by introducing tax advances to making a product here at home, and by relaxing some regulations. I also think the largest impediment to this would be mis guided Unions and misguided union membership that still think unions help rather then hurt our economy.
Ironically, if you look you will find Made in America products available in Walmart. Just sayin....
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Yup, Walmart does have some Made in USA stuff, and I do try to look for those products. I recently was buying some socks there and noticed that with the ones that I was looking at, there were packs with identical brand name, description and barcode, but different three different countries of manufacture available. I dug through the pile and bought two packs of the made in USA ones.
Originally Posted by ControlsInMT
It seems like we still make some big plastic things in the USA. I think that Blitz makes their gas containers, ramps and stuff in the USA. Maybe shipping cost factors in more for larger, lighter items?
Rubbermaid makes a lot of their products domestically. I think that size and weight are factors in shipping. A large, lightweight object equates to wasted space on a cargo ship, because they make their money on tonnage. Unless they can charge an inflated rate for large, lightweight goods, it's not worth it for them to ship it.
Originally Posted by jrevans
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I worked on U.S. merchant tankers for 10 years. Although I never worked on a containership, I believe rates are so much per container. Weight isn't much of a factor to ships because ships can carry huge weights very efficiently. I could be wrong, but I think this is the case.
We answered this one here a while back. I think it was a bit under $1000 for a container from China to the west coast and $1200 to the east.
Originally Posted by exreo
What made America great? People could do what ever they wanted with their money in order to make a profit. Those same people have the ability to take their money overseas to make as much profit as they can. Why is it cheaper their than here to produce goods? Inflation. Our economies (the West) has had a lot of growth to get them to the mature state they are, China and the like are farther down the development curve.
With prosperity the value of real-estate and goods rise as well as wages. There is no way the average Chinese could afford a rent of $1000 month, here it is not unusual. So our workers have to make more than the Chinese. But the store owner also pays more in rent, has to charge more to pay his employees so they can cover their costs, basically we have a greater cost structure built into our society. It was not an issue when things were made here and we did not have much trade with those low cost societies. Once companies were free to take their capital overseas it was inevitable that the jobs, and the revenue the government received from those jobs went with them.
Hard to compete when you live in a $1000 month neighborhood as compared to a $100 month neighborhood. Regulations, China is fast catching up with us, as an example coal fired power plant emissions.
ChinaFAQs: China Adopts World-Class Pollutant Emissions Standards for Coal Power Plants
Chinas new state-of-the-art national air pollution standards for thermal power plants went into effect January 1, 2012, replacing standards that had been in effect since 2003.1 Not only are these standards much more stringent than the previous standards, but they bring Chinese power plant regulation generally in line with developed world standards in important respects. This is true for both new and existing power plants. The new Chinese law gives existing power plants a 2½ year grace period to meet the new standards, but then all existing plants will be subject to the new standard. Older plants will also see a tightened standard (and sometimes stricter than the US or the EU for existing plants.
Now if China were to float their currency and let the markets decide on the worth there would be less difference between the cost of goods. The big difference would be how much we are willing to work for. If a Chinese employee works all year and covers his expenses and has enough left over to buy a bicycle, then our standard of living will have to drop down enough so that his bicycle and the shipping it costs to transport goods equals our costs.
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I wonder if the Mary Jane growers in Humbolt County CA. put a "Grown in America" sticker on their baggies would it increase sales?
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T-shirts and tennis shoes could be made on the frikkin moon. I couldn't care less. Made in USA used to mean manufactured products like pipe fittings, (Thailand, China now)...Manhole covers, silverware, tools for christ's sake used to be made here. We didn't need China to supply us. If we are not a self-sufficient country, what are we? Screwed. Obama is the biggest phillips head we ever elected. And he couldn't be happier to return the favor.
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Why stick to "Made in the the USA". Let's make is better "Made in the USA and owned by Americans". This way we keep the profit here.
Last edited by ararams; 11-27-2012 at 05:20 PM.
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That's even better, but for now I'd settle for "Made in the USA" just to get people back to work!
Originally Posted by ararams
I've met a lot of people in Kentucky who work for Toyota, and even though their company profits go back to Japan, the wage earners in the USA are definitely helping out our economy. It really is sad to see how much manufacturing has gone out of the country, especially hard goods like tunnel_rat mentioned.
I'm a railfan who is interested in heavy industry, and it's sad to see the amount of manufacturing infrastructure abandoned and crumbling across our great country. We need to be both producers and consumers, or we're going to be in a world of hurt. (We may already be there....)