A Clear Agenda for Democrats.

[addfreon]

1 Raise the minimum wage...start at 7.75 and move to 8.25 in 5 years...the benifits to the senior worker and those in menial employment would be tremendous.

2.Begin Hearings into war profiteering with Justice Dept. involvement..Those found guilty looting the treasury will be charged with treason and detained as enemy combatants of the United States. With no profit motive for this endeavor.
You can bet our involvement there will come to an abrupt end.

3.Vigorously pursue energy independence...commit funds equal to that spent in Iraq and half the oil company subsidies. And spend it in this country towards clean and independent alternative resources...At least give the archaic and aristocratic petroleum fortunes some competition for christ sakes.

While none of these would have a chance of passing without compromise and back channel politics and a measure of insider corruption...The goals are worthy and long overdue.

[acmanko]

the minimum wage is nowhere close to a living wage, for the most part education is free, with it there is no need for a minimum wage. Gads, if war profiteering was stopped, the unemployment rate would most likely hit the mid teens.Cardboard work for food signs would sell at a premium. as for oil and energy independence, build more refineries and increase the supply.

[MadeinUSA]

Originally posted by addfreon
1 Raise the minimum wage...start at 7.75 and move to 8.25 in 5 years...the benifits to the senior worker and those in menial employment would be tremendous.

Yes, high school kids working part-time who sack groceries should make enough to live on their own, and dragging the economy to a screeching halt will be the result.

Have you ever heard of furthering your education to make yourself worth more rather than forcing the government to pay higher wages to uneducated people who refuse to better themselves?

2.Begin Hearings into war profiteering with Justice Dept. involvement..Those found guilty looting the treasury will be charged with treason and detained as enemy combatants of the United States. With no profit motive for this endeavor.
You can bet our involvement there will come to an abrupt end.

Subpoenas are obviously your excuse for not being able to create a plan to better society and solve issues.

The democrat party will be known as the “busy body” party.

3.Vigorously pursue energy independence...commit funds equal to that spent in Iraq and half the oil company subsidies. And spend it in this country towards clean and independent alternative resources...At least give the archaic and aristocratic petroleum fortunes some competition for christ sakes.

”Commit funds”. Tax and spend is all you guys know. No economics intelligence at all.

While none of these would have a chance of passing without compromise and back channel politics and a measure of insider corruption...The goals are worthy and long overdue.

Spending money just to be spending money is you guys forte.

[geerair]

Originally posted by MadeinUSA
Yes, high school kids working part-time who sack groceries should make enough to live on their own, and dragging the economy to a screeching halt will be the result.

Some of those kids are helping to support their families.

Have you ever heard of furthering your education to make yourself worth more rather than forcing the government to pay higher wages to uneducated people who refuse to better themselves?

You gotta eat first. I've seen some highly educated folks doing menial labor these days.

Subpoenas are obviously your excuse for not being able to create a plan to better society and solve issues

The democrat party will be known as the “busy body” party.

Gee, supoena's were touted by Republicans as a cure for the country's ills when we spent $55 million dollars to find out Clinton got a blowjob.


Seems Republicans were strongly in favor of supoenas at one time. Don't they still think supeonas are an effective tool in fighting corruption, cronyism, lying, war profiteering other assorted violations?

"Commit funds”. Tax and spend is all you guys know. No economics intelligence at all.

Gee, energy independance, what crap. What we need to do is borrow and spend the money to continue helping out those poor oil companies. They desperately needed those tax breaks Imagine having to survive on all those billions in profits. Horror.

Spending money just to be spending money is you guys forte.

Yeah forget that stuff, let's borrow and spend it on something important like making up bogus reasons to invade a nation that is no threat to us and planting ourselves squarely in the middle of a civil war and watching our dollars being pissed away along with the lives and bodies of our young people.

[James 3528]

So much drama from Geer.

Most kids 16 to 18 don't work. Of that group that does, I hardly think they are claiming their parents as a tax deduction. Raise the minimum wage. Get rid of the earned income tax credit.

Show us where the Republican touted supenas as a way to cure the country. Clinton's idea was midnight basketball.

For extra credit, tell us how much the cruise missiles cost us that Clinton shot at nothing to draw attention away from himself.

[geerair]

Originally posted by James 3528
So much drama from Geer.

Most kids 16 to 18 don't work. Of that group that does, I hardly think they are claiming their parents as a tax deduction. Raise the minimum wage. Get rid of the earned income tax credit.

Maybe they don't work in Georgia but they do in Texas.

Who said they are claiming parents as a deduction?

Show us where the Republican touted supenas as a way to cure the country. Clinton's idea was midnight basketball.

Show you, hell man the blizzard of subpoenas flying around Whitewater were enormous.

For extra credit, tell us how much the cruise missiles cost us that Clinton shot at nothing to draw attention away from himself.

1.5 million. Bush spends that in 30 minutes in Iraq 24/7/365

[MadeinUSA]

Originally posted by geerair

Originally posted by MadeinUSA
Yes, high school kids working part-time who sack groceries should make enough to live on their own, and dragging the economy to a screeching halt will be the result.

Some of those kids are helping to support their families.

Support being the "key" word, not raise.

Have you ever heard of furthering your education to make yourself worth more rather than forcing the government to pay higher wages to uneducated people who refuse to better themselves?

You gotta eat first. I've seen some highly educated folks doing menial labor these days.[/b][/quote]Life is not all roses 100% of the time. The governments job is not to support you. Deal with it.

Subpoenas are obviously your excuse for not being able to create a plan to better society and solve issues

The democrat party will be known as the “busy body” party.

Gee, supoena's were touted by Republicans as a cure for the country's ills when we spent $55 million dollars to find out Clinton got a blowjob.


Seems Republicans were strongly in favor of supoenas at one time. Don't they still think supeonas are an effective tool in fighting corruption, cronyism, lying, war profiteering other assorted violations?.[/b][/quote]You mean to find out he lied and tampered with evidence. For one who preaches about the laws and rights all the time, it sure is funny how you are convicting people before a trial has taken place.

"Commit funds”. Tax and spend is all you guys know. No economics intelligence at all.

Gee, energy independance, what crap. What we need to do is borrow and spend the money to continue helping out those poor oil companies. They desperately needed those tax breaks Imagine having to survive on all those billions in profits. Horror.[/b][/quote]Hmm, seems you guys are the spend experts. Problem is, you guys raise taxes and kill the economy when you do it. An economy that goes to trash does not produce revenue for the treasury. Of course you can not grasp this concept. LOL

Spending money just to be spending money is you guys forte.

Yeah forget that stuff, let's borrow and spend it on something important like making up bogus reasons to invade a nation that is no threat to us and planting ourselves squarely in the middle of a civil war and watching our dollars being pissed away along with the lives and bodies of our young people. [/B][/QUOTE]You forgot one thing, UN resolutions that OK'd to disarm Saddam, who had numerous chances to disarm before we invaded. Nice piece of evidence you people continue to forget.

[renaissanse man]

Originally posted by addfreon
1 Raise the minimum wage...start at 7.75 and move to 8.25 in 5 years...the benifits to the senior worker and those in menial employment would be tremendous.

2.Begin Hearings into war profiteering with Justice Dept. involvement..Those found guilty looting the treasury will be charged with treason and detained as enemy combatants of the United States. With no profit motive for this endeavor.
You can bet our involvement there will come to an abrupt end.

3.Vigorously pursue energy independence...commit funds equal to that spent in Iraq and half the oil company subsidies. And spend it in this country towards clean and independent alternative resources...At least give the archaic and aristocratic petroleum fortunes some competition for christ sakes.

While none of these would have a chance of passing without compromise and back channel politics and a measure of insider corruption...The goals are worthy and long overdue.

I just met you, and already you suck.

[renaissanse man]

If you want to make the average entry level wage go up, SECURE THE BORDER!

[chucko615]

Raise the minimum wage, when will you guys ever understand. When you raise wages the cost of goods goes up in equal proportion. So the hamburger you pay a $1.00 for today, will cost $1.75 with the raise increases. These people will still be in the same postion, it'll look good on paper, but they won't have any more money in their pockets.

[geerair]

Originally posted by MadeinUSA
Support being the "key" word, not raise.

Yes, I was not ambiguous about that

Life is not all roses 100% of the time. The governments job is not to support you. Deal with it.

Life is not all roses indeed and neither all are menial workers uneducated.

You mean to find out he lied and tampered with evidence. For one who preaches about the laws and rights all the time, it sure is funny how you are convicting people before a trial has taken place.

Not at all, I only call for investigations. See the difference?

The phrase what's good for goose is good for the gander comes to mind.

Hmm, seems you guys are the spend experts. Problem is, you guys raise taxes and kill the economy when you do it. An economy that goes to trash does not produce revenue for the treasury. Of course you can not grasp this concept. LOL

Bush has outspent Clinton in discretionary spending, enlarged the Government more than Clinton, created the an enormous entitlement program, never vetoed a spending bill, given away millions to oil companies and we haven't even gotten to the 4.5 billion a month Bush spends on his personal toy, Iraq. All of this of course is borrowed money.

You forgot one thing, UN resolutions that OK'd to disarm Saddam, who had numerous chances to disarm before we invaded. Nice piece of evidence you people continue to forget.

Nope. The resolutions did not authorize unilateral action. Security Council authorization was necessary.

Disarm? what did iraq have that needed to be disarmed?

[Edited by geerair on 11-11-2006 at 07:03 PM]

[geerair]

double post

[Edited by geerair on 11-11-2006 at 07:01 PM]

[James 3528]

Originally posted by chucko615
Raise the minimum wage, when will you guys ever understand. When you raise wages the cost of goods goes up in equal proportion. So the hamburger you pay a $1.00 for today, will cost $1.75 with the raise increases. These people will still be in the same postion, it'll look good on paper, but they won't have any more money in their pockets.

Yep, just like bums that win the lottery become bums again. One thing for sure, the person that gets if won't raise their productivity and a employee is not going to pay for nothing. Good luck job hunting.