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11-15-2012, 08:17 PM #1
Jindal says the GOP must change
I read a couple of articles from the Republican Governors meeting and where GOP Led States are cowtowing to Obama Care
Defeat makes for strange bedfellows
11-15-2012, 08:56 PM #2
Here is some of it
But speaking at a Republican Governors Association meeting in Las Vegas, Gov. Jindal dismissed Romney's explanation during a press conference yesterday.
"I don't think that represents where we are as a party and where we're going as a party," Jindal, a potential 2016 GOP presidential contender, said. "If we're going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly: One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes, and secondly, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream." http://politi.co/RUVQpV
And Romney's appraisal even sounds discordant when compared to the words of his own campaign spokesman, Kevin Madden, who spoke on a panel at the Atlantic's Washington Ideas Forum yesterday.
"I don't think the Obama campaign gets enough credit for actually changing the electorate," Madden said. "I think their turnout model is extraordinary. They did very well, and they made sure they had the exact model of the electorate that they needed to win." http://bit.ly/SWcLGm
Back at the gathering of governors in Las Vegas, former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour didn't mince words, calling for a "brutally honest assessment of what we did," and recommending a "a very serious proctology exam" for the GOP. http://bit.ly/W83jFg
While his Republican counterparts were recommending the political equivalent of a colonoscopy for their party, Romney ended the conference call with donors yesterday on a wistful note.
"We're still having a hard time, just contemplating what could have been versus what is, and it just doesn't seem real, we're still in the stage of denial at my house," Romney said chuckling. "We still think the campaign is going on."
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11-15-2012, 09:24 PM #3I draw all my schematics in crayon now. If they cannot always be correct, they can at least be colorful.
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11-15-2012, 10:00 PM #4
It is not surprising that it was Reagan's legacy that Romney touted at every opportunity during the election. The former B-movie actor-turned-politician stood for less government, lower taxes and greater trust in business. This was followed by the rise of the Christian right within the party, a move further right on social issues and ultimately the fusing of this ideology with Reagan economics in the Tea Party movement.
Writing two weeks ago in the New York Times, the columnist Ross Douthat conceded the conservatives who dominate the Republican party "must face reality: The age of Reagan is officially over, and the Obama majority is the only majority we have."
Inflexibility for a political party can be a death knell. If the Republicans want to study a model that works, they need only examine the history of Canada's own Conservative party.
At various times Canada's Conservatives also went through demanding transformations -- from the John A. Macdonald Tories to Progressive Conservative after 1942, and then back to Conservative under Stephen Harper -- in finding leaders and policies that attract wide support.
Avoiding extremism, especially on social issues, and embracing diversity might be a start. But given how ingrained these views are among the current crop of Republicans, who hold unfettered capitalism as sacrosanct, this probably will not happen any time soon. The Democrats can only smile at that thought.
We have a government that is reducing taxes, reducing the size of government, reducing hoops for business, all in socialist Canada (as compared to you guys). So how are they getting away with it? See above.Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
11-15-2012, 10:17 PM #5
But they are not going to change or compromise or move to the center. What they are going to do is the same thing they always do; which is wrap the ugliness of their platform in the flag, the bible, and 2nd amendment rights. They are betting that Americans, who they believe to fundamentally stupid, will keep buying into the diversionary tactics while they use their power and money to give themselves more power and money.Truth is still truth, even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it.
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11-15-2012, 10:19 PM #6Professional Member*
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I think Romney is right. The 47% has won the election because of GIFTS from the liberals.
They (the 47%) are DEPENDENT on the government for hand outs.
The people that say "republicans must change", just want conservatives to become MORE liberal..... !
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11-15-2012, 11:43 PM #7
I doubt your voters need all the freebies to vote for the Republicans. They just want to be assured that they do not turn the country back 200 years and make it into a fundamentalist paradise. Heck, Romney lost by a good margin and the Republicans still do not consider Obama the legitimate leader of your country. You think people in the middle are going to trust them?Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
11-16-2012, 12:12 AM #8
People believe that it's ok to sell out the country as long as there's money to be made.
There are people that choose to live off of others without putting anything in.
There are the paranoid types that want to fling a rocket every breath they take.
Amidst all of this our media is full of half truths, and blatant lies on all sides...the majority of people here are either too lazy, or busy to research anything on their own.
I hate to say it, but the people of this country have grown far too comfortable, and would not chance losing what they have to take the government by the reigns.
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11-16-2012, 09:10 AM #11Professional Member
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