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    410-a a good conductor of electricity?

    okay!

    thursday night I was fixing a carrier 30rb chiller.
    had a leak in the hot gas tee.
    after the repair I was charging it when my light broke, so I just worked in the dark.

    I hung my gauges on the chiller on those little chicken wire gaurds whatever they are called?

    when I purged the air out of my hose some refrigerant blew on the hook of my gauge manifold and sparked!!!

    it was very dark out and I could see it clearly.

    I kept doing it over and over like a dozen times! It was definately sparking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    what the heck?????????????

    i wanted to take a video but my phone/flashlight/camera also died!
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    I guess?????????????????

    sure was cool to look at in the dark!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    how cool!

    did he explain what was causing that?
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    Interesting topic, and good video...

    I do know liquid refrigerant will conduct electricity... spilled it into an elec box many years ago and got a vivid display. I doubt gaseous refrigerant will though... no proof, just a hunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supertek65 View Post
    how cool!

    did he explain what was causing that?
    It is static charge buildup by refrigerant traveling through the hoses.

    I've never seen the sparks, but I've FELT them....

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    huh??????????????????????????
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    that is why I asked how much refrigerant you were charging.

    I've never worked on a 30rb machine so I don't know if you're talking a couple pounds, a couple jugs or a couple tons.

    As fluid flows, it can generate a static charge.

    I was pulling some gas from a rack on a roof one day. Only a hundred pounds or so, but the 125# tank was sitting on a rubber roof, my manifold was NOT grounded nor was the tank.

    It only took about 2 minutes to build a noticeable 'zip' when you touched the tank. If you let it go much longer, the shock was almost painful.

    I've seen it happen before, but this was the worst I can remember.

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    and here it was I thought I was having flash backs, kewl video !!

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    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

    i kept bleeding refrigerant or AIR out of my hoses over and over to prove to myself I was not imagining stuff!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Worthington View Post
    and here it was I thought I was having flash backs, kewl video !!
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    That happened to me before, it even killed my scale one time! I was dumping liquid into a system in a vacuum and all of a sudden I started hearing sparking.. I touched my manifold and got shocked, then i heard a big zap and the screen on my scale went blank..

    From then on I usually attach a wire from the tank to the unit or some metal to keep it grounded. I do get some little shocks here and there from it, but never that bad again.

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