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    nordyne tripping limit

    model m3rl080a
    ser m3a050301139

    keeps tripping limit on combustion blower
    work alright while i there
    something over heating but what
    any help?

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    is this a 90%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowa tech View Post
    model m3rl080a
    ser m3a050301139

    keeps tripping limit on combustion blower
    work alright while i there
    something over heating but what
    any help?
    I would first pull the inducer motor off and check to see if the restrictor plate (inducer orifice as they call it) is damaged, eaten away, or has fallen out.

    If the inducer is pulling too much flue gas through the orifice, the gas is not having enough time to cool off by staying in the HX long enough.

    You can also put a temp probe in to see if the flue temp is above 145ºf to eliminate the possibility of a bad switch.

    The part number for the orifice on the 80,000 btu unit is #155315R.
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    Temp is about 135 in flue
    New c blower install by first tech
    Yes 90%

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowa tech View Post
    Temp is about 135 in flue
    135ºf flue temp is tripping a 145º limit.

    How far away from the inducer did you measure the temp?

    Assuming you are confident of your temp reading, and the 135ºf flue temp is stable, I would be installing a new limit.

    A combustion analysis would help in determining if the readings are stable.
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    i remember my first time with a problem similar....the disc was so rotten that it wasnt there. i was pulling my hair outa head untill some other guy said that the opening should be 1.5 inches.....i said its about 3.... disc wasnt even there or any signs of it...hahahaha

    couple months later i go to similar call....new apprentice was like omg u so smart...lol i told him the long version....he laughed....


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    135* flue temp.

    combustion analysis would help determine whats going on. 135* is max you want on a 90% furn

    check air supply blower wheel and secondary heat exchanger. Make sure your moving enough return air. usually low airflow or overfired causes flue temp to be that high.

    you need 150cfm per 10,000 input btu with 90% furnace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBacardi View Post
    i remember my first time with a problem similar....the disc was so rotten that it wasnt there. i was pulling my hair outa head untill some other guy said that the opening should be 1.5 inches.....i said its about 3.... disc wasnt even there or any signs of it...hahahaha

    couple months later i go to similar call....new apprentice was like omg u so smart...lol i told him the long version....he laughed....
    I find a lot of these m3 furnaces with inducer limit tripped. To date, every one was due to corroded or missing orifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcrj View Post
    I find a lot of these m3 furnaces with inducer limit tripped. To date, every one was due to corroded or missing orifice.
    Invaluable information, thanks, hear of this one time only but the other tech never found the issue that I know of.

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    Orifice.. one for the memory banks...

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    The older Lennox ghr 26 had them also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    The older Lennox ghr 26 had them also.
    Yes. Did you ever see one of those corroded? They obviously used better material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcrj View Post
    Yes. Did you ever see one of those corroded? They obviously used better material.
    No but I have seen the condensate box come apart and not close ps switch. Inside of it i mean. The old discs always seem fine in the inducer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    Invaluable information, thanks, hear of this one time only but the other tech never found the issue that I know of.
    you do mean valuable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravity View Post
    you do mean valuable?
    "invaluable
    in·val·u·a·ble
    adjective beyond calculable or appraisable value; of inestimable worth; priceless"

    Valuable/invaluable - the same
    Flammable/inflammable - the same
    English is weird.
    Last edited by kdean1; 11-09-2012 at 09:52 PM. Reason: clarifying

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    Lol I guess what I meant was invaluable as in so useful you can't put a price on it, seems like I heard that expression somewhere but maybe I got it wrong. So yes unmeasurable value.

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    thank you kdean and joe.

    the English language is pretty jacked up.

    to, too, two, there, their, they're.....etc

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    Never would have crossed my mind. How many furnaces have this "restrictor plate"?

    This site is unvaluably inmeasurable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post
    Never would have crossed my mind. How many furnaces have this "restrictor plate"?

    This site is unvaluably inmeasurable.
    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post
    Never would have crossed my mind. How many furnaces have this "restrictor plate"?

    This site is unvaluably inmeasurable.
    Every nordyne furnace has one since they all use the same inducer (within a model series). A 60k btu will have a restrictor with a small hole, while a 120k will have one with a big hole.

    The faulty restrictors seem to be on models made in the early to mid 2000s. They were made from an opaque plastic that flakes away. The problem is most pronounced on units where the filter was not changed often enough.

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