The Dow is down 300.

[Brian GC]

What was Obamas plan to repair this mess he made.

My memory goes back further than four years. I bet both Bushs borrowed and spent more on invading those two countries than Obama did trying to get us out of this mess. But somehow in a sick way the entertainment value of those wars made it worth it...but not to me. Half of our debt are those three wars which are on the Bushs.

BTW – Did we even get a pipeline out of it like were supposed to?

[Space Racer]

Back to the Past again.

How far back should we go?

[Brian GC]

Back to the Past again.

How far back should we go?

Back to the origin and cause of our outrageous debt.

Why do you want to forget the debt accrued by these wars? Isn’t that how we learn from our mistakes? Is it that if the media stops talking about it we should too? Before we talk about war with Iran we should discuss how we will fund it…unlike what Bush did, or what Obama will do.

[Six]

Back to the origin and cause of our
outrageous debt.

Why do you want to forget the debt accrued by these wars? Isn’t that how we learn from our mistakes? Is it that if the media stops talking about it we should too? Before we talk about war with Iran we should discuss how we will fund it…unlike what Bush did, or what Obama will do.

You're ridiculous.

Those wars are the reason we're up to our eyeballs in debt ?

Those wars are the reason we're struggling economically ?

Those wars added 6 trillion in 4 years ?

Seriously man. You're reaching. Why can I give you sn up to date detailed explanation of our situation and you go "back to the future" on us ?

You libz have zero credibillity when it comes to deficit debt blame.

Also debt is just a part of the problem.

Those wars cause a mass shrinkage of our work force ?

[Southern Mech]

No he is not reaching. Both Bush admins went in half cocked to war on Iraq. What happened we got hit back on our own soil. Then we had a real problem.

2 long drawn out costly wars.

[Space Racer]

Back to the origin and cause of our outrageous debt.

Oh, you mean back to 1913, when Woodrow Wilson gave in to a group of bankers and a group of suffragettes and signed bills creating the Federal Reserve and the income tax (against his better judgment, by the way), so that the government would no longer have to rely on the liquor tax as its primary source of income, and Prohibition could get passed, and the USA could spend the rest of its days in debt to its children and grandchildren and great grandchildren....

Damn liquor!

Yeah, those were the days...

[chaard]

Oh, you mean back to 1913, when Woodrow Wilson gave in to a group of bankers and a group of suffragettes and signed bills creating the Federal Reserve and the income tax (against his better judgment, by the way), so that the government would no longer have to rely on the liquor tax as its primary source of income, and Prohibition could get passed, and the USA could spend the rest of its days in debt to its children and grandchildren and great grandchildren....

Damn liquor!

Yeah, those were the days...

Try 1776. Thomas Payne advocated for national debt to pay for navy.

He's also got credit for Social Security.

[tostaos]

Why do people claim that Mitt Romney and other millionaires are tax evaders? Do you think they are not complying with the law? Do you think they are cheating the system somehow?

There are so many Americans cheating the tax law that the Swiss have to change the law and the Swiss Banks agree to send data to the IRS.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Couldn't see that coming, eh?

Thank you America!



Note I am blaming both sides here. We accept the circumstance that no one wanted to do anything as it might affect chances to be re-elected. We, I suppose, now think that's a valid thing. Problems aren't what's important, only political careers.

We deserve exactly what we get. We allow it.

Good post Scrog!

Seems the economy is not important... tabloid style emotions are more important.

[ga-hvac-tech]

must be all the Republicans who want to leave the country and selling their stocks now.

Historically, who has most of the $$$, makes most of the investments, and runs most of the companies that create jobs?

Might want to remember: If one pisses off the guy with the food truck... well maybe tomorrow he will not show up at the construction site... Then what?

[ga-hvac-tech]

It's his money, but as an American you will have to pay taxes on your income when you make more than 70 grand even when you live on the moon or mars or anywhere in the galaxy.

I know a number of folks here in Atlanta that are making plans to take their $$$ and LEAVE the USA... and renounce their citizenship. Then who do the libs tax to play Robinhood?

[ga-hvac-tech]

That's neither here nor there. You are talking about what a profitable business will do in spite of obstacles, not because of them. Punishment does not push businesses to profitability so much as it gets in the way of it.



With all the misrepresentation, straw man arguments, and demagoguery by Obama and his handlers, I'd keep all my affairs as private as possible, no matter how perfect and above board they might be, just to avoid all the negative chatter and the consequent needless time and effort wasted in justifying things that would otherwise need no justification.

When liars are in the habit of attacking people who have a habit of telling the truth, the best thing a truth-teller can do for himself is keep his mouth shut.

If a few more Republicans understood this, they would have seats in Congress right now.

And possibly the GOP might have control of the senate... thus totally road/blocking that idiot who lied and bought his way back into the WH.

[Wendo]

Stocks are down again today!