Unemployent is about to go up.

[Space Racer]

Many small businessmen who have been hanging on and looking forward to a more favorable business climate are in the process of changing tactics. They are closing the less profitable parts of their businesses. They are streamlining their operations in order to survive the next four years.

Many are preparing to close their doors permanently.

[Space Racer]

In September, Obama asked defense contractors to delay their layoff announcements until after the election.

On November 7, the day after the election, Boeing announced a large layoff:

http://urbangrounds.com/2012/11/boeing-layoffs/

[Six]

Yep.

Ive been telling posters this for weeks now.

Realizing the majority of the electorate is either so partisan they refuse to accept the truth or they're just uninformed I've decided the USA is not long for this world.

We have been defined by the most uninformed in our society.

[Space Racer]

Small Business Employment, Revenues In Downward Trend, Says Intuit
http://www.gaebler.com/News/Small-Bu...-900000259.htm


Obamacare causes reductions in full-time employment:
http://connect.freedomworks.org/news...=node%2F320794
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11...oKlX9o.twitter

[Space Racer]

Jobless Claims Going Up!

By Neal Boortz

You saw this, didn’t you? We now have 439,000 new jobless claims for the first full week after the disastrous reelection of our Dear Ruler. Pennsylvania and Ohio led the pack. Two union states. Two crucial states won by Obama. The Obama crowd is trying to put the best possible spin on these numbers --- saying that they’re due to layoffs from Hurricane Sandy. Nonsense. Layoffs in Ohio? Pennsylvania? Heavy union states?

No … what we’re seeing here is a direct reaction to the idiot voters of this country reelecting this anti-business failure to the presidency for another four years. Here’s how this worked. These businessmen have been struggling for years. More particularly, they have been struggling through the slowest recovery from a recession in history. About two years into Obama’s term these businessmen and investors figured out that things simply weren’t going to get any better until Obama was gone. ObamaCare was looming as an expensive regulatory nightmare. The flood of new business and finance regulations coming out of the Obama executive branch were a nightmare. As a result, businessmen and investors simply went into economic hibernation. They were going to wait until the Obama business winter was over.

Then comes the election. For businessmen and women it signaled the coming of an ice age. Things weren’t going to get better … not anytime soon … and continued hibernation was not possible. It was time to pare back and go into survival mode. ObamaCare was going to be a reality. There would be no repeal. The flood of regulations would continue – probably get worse. The EPA would soon unleash the flood of new so-called “clean air” rules that will send energy costs through the roof. Taxes on small business owners are going to rise. Capital gains taxes on investors – going up. There is absolutely NOTHING on the horizon with four more years of Obama that gives one iota of hope for a better business and economic climate ahead. So … it’s time to go lean and mean … and that’s just what these businesses are doing. They’re shedding employees to get under the ObamaCare threshold. They’re looking for ways to get more efficient so that they can rid themselves of unnecessary workers. As a result we see jobless claims are on the rise .. the highest number since the middle of 2011.

The Obama junta wants to blame it on the storm. Well .. .they’re half-right. It’s a storm all right, but not Hurricane Sandy. It’s the storm of taxes and regulations that are coming with the reelection of an anti-business, tax and spend president.

Elections have consequences. Here’s your pink slip. Enjoy. And if you’re an Obama voter, I’m enjoying it right along with you. You did it to yourselves.

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-...-claims-going/

[ga-hvac-tech]

Jobless Claims Going Up!

By Neal Boortz

You saw this, didn’t you? We now have 439,000 new jobless claims for the first full week after the disastrous reelection of our Dear Ruler. Pennsylvania and Ohio led the pack. Two union states. Two crucial states won by Obama. The Obama crowd is trying to put the best possible spin on these numbers --- saying that they’re due to layoffs from Hurricane Sandy. Nonsense. Layoffs in Ohio? Pennsylvania? Heavy union states?

No … what we’re seeing here is a direct reaction to the idiot voters of this country reelecting this anti-business failure to the presidency for another four years. Here’s how this worked. These businessmen have been struggling for years. More particularly, they have been struggling through the slowest recovery from a recession in history. About two years into Obama’s term these businessmen and investors figured out that things simply weren’t going to get any better until Obama was gone. ObamaCare was looming as an expensive regulatory nightmare. The flood of new business and finance regulations coming out of the Obama executive branch were a nightmare. As a result, businessmen and investors simply went into economic hibernation. They were going to wait until the Obama business winter was over.

Then comes the election. For businessmen and women it signaled the coming of an ice age. Things weren’t going to get better … not anytime soon … and continued hibernation was not possible. It was time to pare back and go into survival mode. ObamaCare was going to be a reality. There would be no repeal. The flood of regulations would continue – probably get worse. The EPA would soon unleash the flood of new so-called “clean air” rules that will send energy costs through the roof. Taxes on small business owners are going to rise. Capital gains taxes on investors – going up. There is absolutely NOTHING on the horizon with four more years of Obama that gives one iota of hope for a better business and economic climate ahead. So … it’s time to go lean and mean … and that’s just what these businesses are doing. They’re shedding employees to get under the ObamaCare threshold. They’re looking for ways to get more efficient so that they can rid themselves of unnecessary workers. As a result we see jobless claims are on the rise .. the highest number since the middle of 2011.

The Obama junta wants to blame it on the storm. Well .. .they’re half-right. It’s a storm all right, but not Hurricane Sandy. It’s the storm of taxes and regulations that are coming with the reelection of an anti-business, tax and spend president.

Elections have consequences. Here’s your pink slip. Enjoy. And if you’re an Obama voter, I’m enjoying it right along with you. You did it to yourselves.

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-...-claims-going/

But... but.... but.... that cannot be true... Boortz said it and nothing he says is true. Only what Obama says is true... everyone knows that... don't they???

One day they will wake up... hope it is not too late.

[acmanko]

And you honestly think none of the people who get layed off will not start their own business?

[ga-hvac-tech]

And you honestly think none of the people who get layed off will not start their own business?

Well... if they do... they will learn how their fearless leader screwed them. When one starts a business, they learn about all the expenses govt piles on... The more folks who know this... the better for the conservative cause.

[DeltaT]

And you honestly think none of the people who get layed off will not start their own business?

That's funny for a deep thinking man. Although that is typical and I agree because previous times like these that is true..and when a lot of successful businesses are made.

But the times...they are a different.

Around here I've watched as companies have evolved into, or should I say, disolved into nothingness in many cases. Many are working with skeleton crews and living from job to job, if they have any jobs.

But what I have watched for about 4 years now is techs using their savings to purchase really nice vans, lettering and setting up offices and all the costs that have gone along with opening up a business. And those costs are pretty expensive and paid for from hard earned savings or second mortgages on their primary homes.

Then they find out why their employer went out of business. They find out there is simply no business or what business is there is not going to pay the bills. Most of them are not going to make it, especially now with the results of the recent election. Some might but what are they going to make it too?

What is the US going to look like in the short run and long run. I don't even give us another 6 months before we are in a crisis that we can't plan for or do much about except to keep pretending.

What use to work in business won't work anymore for the most part. What we have had for the past 200 years is no longer available.

[acmanko]

That's odd, I have 2 friends that started HVAC business within the last couple of years. One took out loans and did what you describe, he is doing OK. The other started his Bare bones and he is doing better.

That's funny for a deep thinking man. Although that is typical and I agree because previous times like these that is true..and when a lot of successful businesses are made.

But the times...they are a different.

Around here I've watched as companies have evolved into, or should I say, disolved into nothingness in many cases. Many are working with skeleton crews and living from job to job, if they have any jobs.

But what I have watched for about 4 years now is techs using their savings to purchase really nice vans, lettering and setting up offices and all the costs that have gone along with opening up a business. And those costs are pretty expensive and paid for from hard earned savings or second mortgages on their primary homes.

Then they find out why their employer went out of business. They find out there is simply no business or what business is there is not going to pay the bills. Most of them are not going to make it, especially now with the results of the recent election. Some might but what are they going to make it too?

What is the US going to look like in the short run and long run. I don't even give us another 6 months before we are in a crisis that we can't plan for or do much about except to keep pretending.

What use to work in business won't work anymore for the most part. What we have had for the past 200 years is no longer available.

[glennac]

Give it a rest ace. The Marxist won so you don't need to continue your 24/7 campaign for the anti American Party with their alien leader. Thank you very much

[acmanko]

Never

[DeltaT]

That's odd, I have 2 friends that started HVAC business within the last couple of years. One took out loans and did what you describe, he is doing OK. The other started his Bare bones and he is doing better.

Why would that be odd...unless you feel threatened by a person who has had different experiences. My reply was about my local market and the reflection I get from many of the other contractors who post on HVAC Talk across the nation.

My story is about my local story. Your story is about your local story.

I see a continued diminished future for the US and that comes from also talking to some of my old HVAC friends from one ocean to the other ocean. And you see a few folks doing wellin Texas, I assume, so that negates my input?

I'm glad you have good stories to tell. And I'm sure a few of these new starts up here will also survive against all odds but that still does not negate the business climate of most of this country that you seem to have a fear in recognizing.