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    Still no electricity in NJ?

    It's not for a lack of volunteer workers trying to help;
    Utility crews from several states East of the Mississippi River hit the road this week to volunteer their time and talents in Northeastern states hit hard by Hurricane Sandy. But crews from Alabama got the shock of their lives when other workers in a coastal New Jersey town told them they couldn’t lend a hand without a union card.
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/02/ne...#ixzz2B4XtQ4J6
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    Robo, your slippin man...shaygetz all ready posted this.

    Cmon man..fill your boots! You have been maintaining a low profile lately...this is disturbing! lolz

    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread....ithout-comment
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    High voltage needs volunteers to fry. Say yes to safety and let the unions have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    Robo, your slippin man...shaygetz all ready posted this.

    Cmon man..fill your boots! You have been maintaining a low profile lately...this is disturbing! lolz

    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread....ithout-comment
    It's worth repeating...

    And I have been very busy with doing training classes and now getting calls from contractors about drowned units. Of course, I'm not getting the calls from NJ because they don't have electricity yet.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by toocoolforschool View Post
    High voltage needs volunteers to fry. Say yes to safety and let the unions have it.
    That's kinda mean....funny, but mean...
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    You are here: Jobs > Articles & News > Non-Union Utility Crew's Claim Of Being Rebuffed In NJ Comes Under Fire
    Non-Union Utility Crew's Claim Of Being Rebuffed In NJ Comes Under Fire
    By Claire Gordon
    Posted Nov 3rd 2012 @ 8:12AM
    Filed under: Employment News & Trends

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    Out-of-state workers have been pouring into New Jersey to help with the recovery efforts from Hurricane Sandy, but one Alabama-based utility crew claims that it returned home because of a requirement that all workers be union-affiliated. Labor officials, a New Jersey utility company and Gov. Chris Christie deny, however, that any such condition exists.

    The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers presented Alabama-based Decatur Utilities with documents stating that any utility crew coming to help out had to be unionized, according to Decatur's general manager, Ray Hardin.

    A six-member crew headed north for Seaside Heights, N.J., to help restore electricity, but ended up heading back home after they got to Virginia -- not because they were "turned away," Hardin told The Star-Ledger of Newark, but simply because they couldn't clarify whether they'd be allowed to work at all.

    "That was something that we could not agree to," Hardin said of unionization to Fox Business on Friday. "It was our understanding and still is that it was a requirement for us to work in that area."

    Unions have a much greater presence in New Jersey than Alabama: They accounted for 16 percent of workers in that Northeastern state in 2011, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, compared to 10 percent in the Southeastern one. (Alabama leads its region in union membership, however.)

    But union officials completely deny that there was any such condition. "It is the policy of this union and the companies we represent to welcome assistance during major natural disasters -- regardless of union status," Jim Spellane, spokesman for the national office of the IBEW said in a statement. Gov. Christie said the Alabama crew got "bad information" and that non-union crews are welcomed in the recovery effort, according to The Associated Press. Jersey Central Power & Light, the New Jersey utility which provides power to Seaside Heights, is using non-union crews to help restore power.

    The Seaside Heights municipal utility, which the Alabama workers were planning to assist, isn't even represented by the IBEW, according to Donald Siegel, the vice president of the IBEW's district officer in Philadelphia, which is responsible for locals in New Jersey Pennsylvania, and New York. He told The Star-Ledger that they couldn't find any evidence of the paperwork Hardin mentioned.

    "I don't know where they got that correspondence," he said. "It didn't come from IBEW. It didn't come from any of the locals that I'm aware of."

    Another Alabama utility Huntsville Utilities said the fact that it wasn't unionized didn't create any problems when they sent their crews to Seaside Heights. Their workers left the area and moved on to Long Island, communications manager Bill Yell told The Star-Ledger, simply because the state "had all the crews they could handle."

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    the alleged incident never occurred. the footage aired by hannity and others was actually proven to be reused from the verizon picket lines a while back and had nothing to do with new jersey.

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    there was however a situation in haupaugue new york, where the local officials tried to get union wages for out of state workers, which they then backed away from. i believe the crew on that one was actually from florida.

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    I believe the local officials, aka union guys, also wanted to get union dues from the out of state workers. Im thinking they really didnt give a poop about getting more dough for the floridians, just wanted their cut.

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    very possible. wasnt there, but I do know for a fact the new jersey story was fabricated.

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    Well, I am certainly glad to hear that this was a false accusation. Thank you all for posting your findings. There are enough issues for antagonists to be making up things that are not true.
    Government is a disease...
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    That really did happen here in NY. I'm union, but there's a time and place to pull that stunt. Not while a state of emergency. There's plenty of work to go around restoring power.

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