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  1. #92
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    Still pretty good. I haven't made a pumpkin pie from scratch since the 60's.
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  2. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Still pretty good. I haven't made a pumpkin pie from scratch since the 60's.
    I can't say that I have even had one from scratch, as in carving the pumpkin and all. Pumpkin is my favorite so maybe someday I will try, or make the wife lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Some furnaces will need a very good ground, and unless you have an unusual problem from the panel or disconnect, that is not your issue. Unless you have a ground issue from the module or board on the furnace, going to your burners, then that ground (bond, in reality) is not the issue, either.

    You need to measure rectification current, which is easy unless the HSI doubles as the flame sensor, as it can on some models.

    Your most likely path to the cause is the failure of the circuitry to see a consistent flame proving input.

    No step by step instruction in the open.
    Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all ,the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut ,im on it tomarrow i hope it work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngwiseman View Post
    Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all ,the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut ,im on it tomarrow i hope it work
    although not as long as your other posts, much better.

    Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all, the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut. I'm on it tomorrow.

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    Hey how about them Bulldawgs!!!!

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    I'm so sorry to tell u this but you are a complete IDIOT YOUNGWISEMAN. Call a real professional to go get that unit fixed. By everything u have said you have no idea what u are doing... That is a disgrace to ALL SERVICE TECHS!!!! You need to get them customers some heat... That is the most basic problem you have and you can't even check flame rectification but you call yourself a service tech... People like you in this field piss me off so much.. I FEEL SOOOOOOO SORRY FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS!!!!!!!!


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    No customer should go without heat for 1 day at the most. You have been working on the same furnace for 2 weeks.. I just still cannot believe this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngwiseman View Post
    Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all ,the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut ,im on it tomarrow i hope it work

    For most (for the sticklers, let me repeat, "MOST") furnaces, and all of the older furnaces, the presence of the EGC, properly attached to the cabinet bonding screw, is for safety only. In case of a short circuit to the cabinet, the low impedance path helps to quickly open the overcurrent device to de-energize the feed to the unit.

    On newer furnaces, the board has control logic that ensures the EGC is connected by comparing the supply voltage to both the neutral and the EGC. If the EGC is not connected, the furnace may not decide to do much of anything.

    As I suggested, that EGC is most likely NOT going to be the fix for this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsmith816 View Post
    No customer should go without heat for 1 day at the most. You have been working on the same furnace for 2 weeks.. I just still cannot believe this
    I am doubting that this is a "customer" in the normal sense. Certainly, not a typical person who is either a regular customer of the company and is willing to wait without heat, and not someone who called from a list of contractors in the phone book or equivalent.

    No, this is someone who has no money, one who has some personal connection to this youngster.
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    Just get someone who is more experienced to help you out on this call. Sometimes its just better to get help when your lost. Its really the more smarter thing to do instead of trying to work on something you do not know about

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    At best, he's self taught off the internet. No employer or fellow employee to ask for help??? Come on.

    As far as going awhile without heat or necessities, My next door neighbors are from Nigeria. Mom works at Meijer, dad is a social worker, 3 adult children in the house. Earlier this week, mom tells me the house is still "on cold" when can I come over and fix it. "You now I just had surgery on my shoulder." "Well, what am I supposed to do?" and she walks away upset. My guess is it will still be "on cold" for some time. The house was foreclosed on back in May. Don't know if things were straightened out or they are waiting for the bank to throw them out. A few years back they went 3 weeks without hot water. Hot water heater sprung a hole in it. I told them I'd charge them cost on the heater from Home Depot and a reasonable labor rate. 3 weeks later he gives me the money for the heater and he'll have the rest when he gets home from work. I do the job and wait another week to get paid in full.
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    Reverse Polarity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    Just get someone who is more experienced to help you out on this call. Sometimes its just better to get help when your lost. Its really the more smarter thing to do instead of trying to work on something you do not know about
    Indeed. Outcomes like this are the reason that "young wise man" (there was only one of those in recorded history) will not get step by step instruction here, and why I doubt that he is any kind of technician.

    http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/22...s-Neighborhood

    That one happned last night.

    Here is another a recent one:

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...169799096.html

    and on Long Island in August:

    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/s...ured-1.3904043
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