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  1. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    hey beenthere, what is the difference in me calling members butthole, between other members taking this guys question and reduce him down like hes stupid and insult his intelligence. He does not have a manometer, and he may not know it all like some of you do. Plus he does not punctuate his sentences. But so what? does that give everyone a licence to imply that he dumb and not even a service tech. Which is the greater insult?

    consider if you are ignorant on a certain situation like lets take boilers for example. Lets say you ask a question about boilers on here and you have not had any previous experience with them. And lets imagine the way you word your question reveals your ignorance on boilers. Then someone I guess one of several members on here instead of answering your question and educating you actually go and say things like "he does not even have a manometer that's crazy" and even greater insults and just drag you down. Which is the greater insult? I would rather be called a Butthole.
    Thats the big difference between the open and closed forums.
    We talk among ourselves about if the guy is really a tech.
    We decided he isn't a tech.
    Thus, we give minimal, if any, help.

    If you work on gas equitment, and you don't own some type of manometer, or water column, and you've been in the industry for years, then your doing a great dis-service to your customers.
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  2. #28
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    Yeah he should have a manometer. Maybe he is just getting started in service. 4 years as installer and grandfathering into service. But there's nothing wrong with that. We all start at the bottom at some point I guess. However I take it that if you are a beginner and want help than you better not ask questions on here lol

  3. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    Yeah he should have a manometer. Maybe he is just getting started in service. 4 years as installer and grandfathering into service. But there's nothing wrong with that. We all start at the bottom at some point I guess. However I take it that if you are a beginner and want help than you better not ask questions on here lol
    If he is in the field he goes through the process, if he wants to ask on a closed forum then it's ok, sometimes people can pretend to be a tech, just a HO who is sneaky and wants free info. It's very possible he is an installer but he should have a tech to ask if so, and own a manometer to start up equipment.

  4. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    Yeah he should have a manometer. Maybe he is just getting started in service. 4 years as installer and grandfathering into service. But there's nothing wrong with that. We all start at the bottom at some point I guess. However I take it that if you are a beginner and want help than you better not ask questions on here lol
    Ask all the questions you want. Just don't expect answers. We may lead you to a place to find the answers and, if one is actually in the field it shoulden't be a problem. 15 posts and some credentials is pretty fair to get pro membership. Fact is there are students, installers, apprentices, instructors, and journeymen who have pro membership. You made a point earlier about boiler work. I've been in the industry 15 years and aside from changing circulating pumps and working on the combustion aspect of a boiler I'm clueless. The first journeyman I worked under had never touched a gas appliance. We understand that everyone has a niche they fit in. To not have the basic tools to check a system is not professional and possibly dangerous. So if being a butthole saves money and lives so be it. On a side note, If you're in this industry and your panties get all bunched up because of something someone said on the internet, dude you ain't gonna make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    Yeah he should have a manometer.
    Yea, I should have a new Corvette, but like anything else, it won't just fall out of the sky. I have to pay a mortgage, clothes, food, kids in college, etc. so when I get a "free dollar" to buy a needed tool I try to buy it. Remember some of us were not born rich, are have a thriving business, so we have to spend our hard earned $$$$ on our priorities, and in my world as much as I love tools, they are not a priority.
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    DO NOT STICK THE MANOMETER IN YOUR BUTTHOLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phase Loss View Post
    DO NOT STICK THE MANOMETER IN YOUR BUTTHOLE

    LET'S SAY I DID. WHAT IS THE EXPECTED WC I SHOULD READ AFTER A BEAN BURRITO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    LET'S SAY I DID. WHAT IS THE EXPECTED WC I SHOULD READ AFTER A BEAN BURRITO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post
    Yea, I should have a new Corvette, but like anything else, it won't just fall out of the sky. I have to pay a mortgage, clothes, food, kids in college, etc. so when I get a "free dollar" to buy a needed tool I try to buy it. Remember some of us were not born rich, are have a thriving business, so we have to spend our hard earned $$$$ on our priorities, and in my world as much as I love tools, they are not a priority.
    How does one make money in this business if they don't have the basic tools to do the job? In my world they are a priority. Having the correct tools and a good skill set makes me a more valueable employee, makes my job easier, makes me profitable, etc. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    10 on low and 14 on high fire!
    Noted
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    How does one make money in this business if they don't have the basic tools to do the job?
    I was in the business for over 20 years before I ever owned a manometer, been in it now over 35 years and probably have every worth while tool known to man related to this trade. My message was, we all don't start out with $10,000 worth of tools, some of us have to buy them when $$$ allow, if you were able to have every tool needed when you started in this trade, I have two words for you, YOUR BLESSED!
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    I must confess. I do not own a manometer. Do have a magnahelic though. I misinterpreted your comment.
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