DIRECT IGNITION PROBLEM SHOULD BE SIMPLE!

[2sac]

Have these folks been without heat since November 1?

They're staying with me right now until he can figure it out

[philjafo]

Have these folks been without heat since November 1?

How is that possible? I don't know any customer that would put up with "I don't know what's wrong with it" for that long. At this point maybe you should go buy every single part inside that furnace and swap them out one by one, because you don't have the basic diagnostic tools required or the trouble shooting skills. Then again maybe you should go back to being an electrician, pulling wires doesn't require as much ability to think.

[beenthere]

lol @you and your negativity ,gotta love it, i can do any thing myself sir because i am certified in hvac sir,so actually im certified to do everything you do ,are you jealous hope cause im the one confused here with this simple problem and i have applied for pro membership sir . thank you,nice talking to you but anyway....

Not a good way to get help from our members.

[timebuilder]

How is that possible? I don't know any customer that would put up with "I don't know what's wrong with it" for that long. At this point maybe you should go buy every single part inside that furnace and swap them out one by one, because you don't have the basic diagnostic tools required or the trouble shooting skills. Then again maybe you should go back to being an electrician, pulling wires doesn't require as much ability to think.

I have done a ton of electrical work for electrical contractors and on the railroad (finally preparing for my license) and please, don't send a guy with an outlook like this back to the sparky ranks. They have enough problems already.

[timebuilder]

so actually im certified to do everything you do

When you have spent a few years doing the work, should you make it that far, you will look back on that statement and literally cringe with embarrassment. No kidding.

[pacnw]

How is that possible? I don't know any customer that would put up with "I don't know what's wrong with it" for that long. At this point maybe you should go buy every single part inside that furnace and swap them out one by one, because you don't have the basic diagnostic tools required or the trouble shooting skills. Then again maybe you should go back to being an electrician, pulling wires doesn't require as much ability to think.

X2

[hurtinhvac]

Unless it is truly the board, as it most certainly is sometimes, most flame rectification issues can be diagnosed and resolved in 15 minutes or less. Sometimes it is as simple as [NEED TO BE PRO TO SEE THIS]

This still smells DIY.

[Joehvac25]

When you have spent a few years doing the work, should you make it that far, you will look back on that statement and literally cringe with embarrassment. No kidding.

X2 and since I'm also a chef I'm going to go eat my pumpkin pie!

[timebuilder]

X2 and since I'm also a chef I'm going to go eat my pumpkin pie!

You made FRESH pumpkin pie?????????

[2sac]

Unless it is truly the board, as it most certainly is sometimes, most flame rectification issues can be diagnosed and resolved in 15 minutes or less. Sometimes it is as simple as [NEED TO BE PRO TO SEE THIS]

This still smells DIY.

You mean 10 days is too long?

[Joehvac25]

You made FRESH pumpkin pie?????????

Well Marie callender helped lol! I baked it!

[timebuilder]

Still pretty good. I haven't made a pumpkin pie from scratch since the 60's.

[Joehvac25]

Still pretty good. I haven't made a pumpkin pie from scratch since the 60's.

I can't say that I have even had one from scratch, as in carving the pumpkin and all. Pumpkin is my favorite so maybe someday I will try, or make the wife lol.

[Youngwiseman]

Some furnaces will need a very good ground, and unless you have an unusual problem from the panel or disconnect, that is not your issue. Unless you have a ground issue from the module or board on the furnace, going to your burners, then that ground (bond, in reality) is not the issue, either.

You need to measure rectification current, which is easy unless the HSI doubles as the flame sensor, as it can on some models.

Your most likely path to the cause is the failure of the circuitry to see a consistent flame proving input.

No step by step instruction in the open.

Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all ,the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut ,im on it tomarrow i hope it work

[pacnw]

Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all ,the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut ,im on it tomarrow i hope it work

although not as long as your other posts, much better.

Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all, the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut. I'm on it tomorrow.

when there is a red line under a word, it is an indication of a probable misspelling.

[Northfloridatech]

Hey how about them Bulldawgs!!!!

[Bsmith816]

I'm so sorry to tell u this but you are a complete IDIOT YOUNGWISEMAN. Call a real professional to go get that unit fixed. By everything u have said you have no idea what u are doing... That is a disgrace to ALL SERVICE TECHS!!!! You need to get them customers some heat... That is the most basic problem you have and you can't even check flame rectification but you call yourself a service tech... People like you in this field piss me off so much.. I FEEL SOOOOOOO SORRY FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS!!!!!!!!


Pro Rule infraction. Time out for 30 days. -Dad

[Bsmith816]

No customer should go without heat for 1 day at the most. You have been working on the same furnace for 2 weeks.. I just still cannot believe this

[timebuilder]

Come to think of it this furnace is not grounded at all ,the bare wire coming into the furnace is cut ,im on it tomarrow i hope it work

For most (for the sticklers, let me repeat, "MOST") furnaces, and all of the older furnaces, the presence of the EGC, properly attached to the cabinet bonding screw, is for safety only. In case of a short circuit to the cabinet, the low impedance path helps to quickly open the overcurrent device to de-energize the feed to the unit.

On newer furnaces, the board has control logic that ensures the EGC is connected by comparing the supply voltage to both the neutral and the EGC. If the EGC is not connected, the furnace may not decide to do much of anything.

As I suggested, that EGC is most likely NOT going to be the fix for this issue.

[timebuilder]

No customer should go without heat for 1 day at the most. You have been working on the same furnace for 2 weeks.. I just still cannot believe this

I am doubting that this is a "customer" in the normal sense. Certainly, not a typical person who is either a regular customer of the company and is willing to wait without heat, and not someone who called from a list of contractors in the phone book or equivalent.

No, this is someone who has no money, one who has some personal connection to this youngster.