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  1. #14
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    Get a digital manometer, **** after 4 years you don't have a manometer that's crazy. That's what u nesd


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    It lit twice, then you cleaned the flame sensor, now it won't lite, what did you do?

    You don't need a manometer to tell if you have gas pressure to a unit, just to know if you have the correct pressure. Think about it.

    If the gas was just turned back on yesterday I would think the gas company would have bled the line, but maybe not if he ws green.

    You say you have 24v to valve, does it "click", can you feel it?

  3. #16
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    You don't need a manometer to test for pressure but with no experience I don't want to tell him how to check though it should be a no brainier.


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    First of all what is up with all the insults everyone? writing in cap locks... Who cares? you don't have to read it if you don't want to and run on sentences? come on! be easy on youngwiseman I mean he is only seeking advice! don't shoot him down. hes been in the field 4 years, give him a break buttholes.

    Ok youngwiseman can you hear the gas valve click when 24 volts is applied to its coil. Do you hear gas hissing through the orifices on the burner manifold when the gas valve opens. Is your first orifice on manifold maybe clogged? If you suspect no gas than take your allen wrench and loosen the pressure tap on the inlet side of your gas valve and see if you have any, can you smell it?

    Is your pressure switchs making contact when inducer is running. maybe your flue pipe is partially stopped up (waspers nest) and dropping out the gas valve when the pressure switch is going back and forth clicking in and out

  5. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    First of all what is up with all the insults everyone? writing in cap locks... Who cares? you don't have to read it if you don't want to and run on sentences? come on! be easy on youngwiseman I mean he is only seeking advice! don't shoot him down. hes been in the field 4 years, give him a break buttholes.

    Ok youngwiseman can you hear the gas valve click when 24 volts is applied to its coil. Do you hear gas hissing through the orifices on the burner manifold when the gas valve opens. Is your first orifice on manifold maybe clogged? If you suspect no gas than take your allen wrench and loosen the pressure tap on the inlet side of your gas valve and see if you have any, can you smell it?

    Is your pressure switchs making contact when inducer is running. maybe your flue pipe is partially stopped up (waspers nest) and dropping out the gas valve when the pressure switch is going back and forth clicking in and out
    First, we don't do ANY step by step in the open forums.

    Second, it does matter how he communicates, because style and substance are intertwined. If he can communicate clearly and succinctly, in an easy to read style, he will be much farther ahead in getting the info he needs. I stopped after about ten words, because I'm here to help, and not beat myself up trying to conform to an unconventional individual.

    If this guy is a tech, he needs to get his post count up to 15 and apply for Pro membership, and learn how to interact on the forum, so he can really benefit from the experience of this online community.

    Once he has Pro membership, he can ask technical questions in the Pro forums, and he will get lots of help.

    Fair enough? 'nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    First, we don't do ANY step by step in the open forums.

    Second, it does matter how he communicates, because style and substance are intertwined. If he can communicate clearly and succinctly, in an easy to read style, he will be much farther ahead in getting the info he needs. I stopped after about ten words, because I'm here to help, and not beat myself up trying to conform to an unconventional individual.

    If this guy is a tech, he needs to get his post count up to 15 and apply for Pro membership, and learn how to interact on the forum, so he can really benefit from the experience of this online community.

    Once he has Pro membership, he can ask technical questions in the Pro forums, and he will get lots of help.

    Fair enough? 'nuff said.
    Well said, sometimes being tough makes the point sink farther.
    We don't know this person is a tech, these are questions he should ask his lead tech, though it is very easy according to the title.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pacnw View Post
    "... I DONT HAVE A WATER MANOMETER TO CHECK THE GAS PRESSURE IN AND OUT THE VALVE, ANY SUGGESTIONS..."

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  8. #21
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    No way someone with four years experience would be this stumped, not have a manometer nor the basic knowledge to establish whether gas is present or not. I'm reasonably sure he was born with a nose - but I would not coach him to stick it anywhere near a furnace.

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    He could be an installer helper....
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  10. #23
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    Hey I apologize time builder. I just thought he was receiving harsh treatment and everyone was out to insult his intelligence. I'm new to this forum myself so I'll just back away and keep to myself. Thanks for the reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    Hey I apologize time builder. I just thought he was receiving harsh treatment and everyone was out to insult his intelligence. I'm new to this forum myself so I'll just back away and keep to myself. Thanks for the reply
    When I first came here I thought the same but after seeing the same thing over and over plus if you give a less qualified person instruction and they hut themselves then what. It's also a liability for the site owners if I'm not mistaken.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dgussler View Post
    First of all what is up with all the insults everyone? writing in cap locks... Who cares? you don't have to read it if you don't want to and run on sentences? come on! be easy on youngwiseman I mean he is only seeking advice! don't shoot him down. hes been in the field 4 years, give him a break buttholes.

    Ok youngwiseman can you hear the gas valve click when 24 volts is applied to its coil. Do you hear gas hissing through the orifices on the burner manifold when the gas valve opens. Is your first orifice on manifold maybe clogged? If you suspect no gas than take your allen wrench and loosen the pressure tap on the inlet side of your gas valve and see if you have any, can you smell it?

    Is your pressure switchs making contact when inducer is running. maybe your flue pipe is partially stopped up (waspers nest) and dropping out the gas valve when the pressure switch is going back and forth clicking in and out
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    hey beenthere, what is the difference in me calling members butthole, between other members taking this guys question and reduce him down like hes stupid and insult his intelligence. He does not have a manometer, and he may not know it all like some of you do. Plus he does not punctuate his sentences. But so what? does that give everyone a licence to imply that he dumb and not even a service tech. Which is the greater insult?

    consider if you are ignorant on a certain situation like lets take boilers for example. Lets say you ask a question about boilers on here and you have not had any previous experience with them. And lets imagine the way you word your question reveals your ignorance on boilers. Then someone I guess one of several members on here instead of answering your question and educating you actually go and say things like "he does not even have a manometer that's crazy" and even greater insults and just drag you down. Which is the greater insult? I would rather be called a Butthole.

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