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    Workplace trouble

    Just heard one my tech guys got fired over for applying jbs on craglist which my company posted ads for hiring available which he send resume to email then my company office found out and fired him immediately

    What you thinking?

    Sounds like hostile work environment

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    It stinks, but it is a good time of year to be looking for a job. Why he lost his job is easily explained in a job interview though. Lesson to be learned here, don't answer a blind ad. I don't see why an ad would be blind unless it was for a managerial position imo. For a tech position if they won't say who it is I wouldn't answer it unless I was desperate. I would think he was on his way out unless they would have asked him why he was unhappy. If he is a decent tech in the end it will probably be one of the best things that happens to him. Easy to say now but that will probably be the case looking back.
    When someone gets fired it is always easy to see who the backstabbers and buttkissers you work with are. Just sayin.
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    Do you think the company was going to fire this guy as soon as they found someone?? Did he get any warnings? Write ups? Anything negative within the last 2 months? Large # of call backs?? Any reason you know of?? Curious to know what he put on his resume about the company he got fired from. Now the company that fired him will tell other companys that may want to check his reference?? What state, city??

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    i been with my company almost 2 years and he was only with us for years he wasn't happy with office because they always talk **** how we do i just keep rolling

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    Things happen for a reason. If he was not happy & looking for another job, by fire-ing him will speed up the process. Wish everyone GOOD LUCK!!!!

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    It sucks when it happens that way.
    During my moves to and from various companies, I've learned to be very specific with whom I submit applications too. I politely ask that they not contact my current employer during the interview/hiring process. I also request that any required pre-employment screenings be completed before I put in my 2 weeks. That way if the current employer gets upset and just sends you home, you have an open spot waiting for you with little to no down time.
    Funny thing is I wish I would be sent home, they keep me for the full 2 weeks. And when I didn't have a spot open right away I got sent home.
    Best of luck to your coworker

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    Based purely on what you posted, there are no legal grounds to consider this a 'hostile work environment,' none whatsoever.

    Florida is an 'at will' state, no? If so, they don't need a reason to fire him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug1111 View Post
    Do you think the company was going to fire this guy as soon as they found someone?? Did he get any warnings? Write ups? Anything negative within the last 2 months? Large # of call backs?? Any reason you know of?? Curious to know what he put on his resume about the company he got fired from. Now the company that fired him will tell other companys that may want to check his reference?? What state, city??
    Interesting that you mention references...

    In some states, California is one, when you call another company for a reference on a worker all they can say is that you did work there. AFAIK no other information or opinion can be discussed.

    This may vary state to state
    Can someone please explain to me -
    Why is there never enough time to do it right the first time, but plenty of time to do it twice?


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    I am very specific with companies that I work for that I will occasionally field an interview just for networking purposes and trying to figure out how other people do things...interviewing from both sides is a skill...You never know when knock your socks off offer will come about either...The world is competitive and companies will dump you in a heartbeat as evidence by the OP...
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    Quote Originally Posted by joemach View Post
    Interesting that you mention references...

    In some states, California is one, when you call another company for a reference on a worker all they can say is that you did work there. AFAIK no other information or opinion can be discussed.

    This may vary state to state
    Yeah, I'm going to need to see a citation for that. That simply cannot be true.

    Even the most cautionary company will upon asking, acknowledge dates of employment and verify the salary. They won't say "we paid him X" but if the caller says "he said he was paid X, can you verify that?" the former company will say whether or not that is correct.

    But those companies typically have a solid HR department and are acting with an abundance of caution.

    If you call on references and the person says "all I can say is that yes, they worked here" then that person is following company policy and not statute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxw9634 View Post
    Just heard one my tech guys got fired over for applying jbs on craglist which my company posted ads for hiring available which he send resume to email then my company office found out and fired him immediately

    What you thinking?

    Sounds like hostile work environment
    To be a hostile work environment according to the US Supreme Court it has to be harassment to a protected class such as over 40, based on gender, race, religion etc. And to top it off that does not prohibit all verbal and physical harassment in the workplace. And even if they were targeting a certain protected class there is always an excuse to say that it is not. Generally in practice anyways.

    But the guy that got fired may have some options. If your company gives bonuses I would have him look at these articles and look into the FLSA which I will attach and start at section 778.208 BONUSES. He may have some money due him as well you might. It will go back 2 years and up to 3 years depending on circumstances. If this is applicable he just need to call Wage and Hour Division.

    As was already stated Fla is an at will state so he can be fired for no reason but there may be some laws in an employees favor.

    What is right is right right?

    http://www.ie3media.com/cracking-the-overtime-code/

    http://contractingbusiness.com/women...ning-halloween

    http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...e29.3.778_1208
    "War is cruelty,and you cannot refine it." Sherman to the leadership of Atlanta prior to burning the city.

    “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
    Most misunderstood quote of all time!
    It was about the ability to collect taxes.

    Debunking the 1% slaveownership in 1860.
    http://www.civilwarcauses.org/stat.htm
    http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug1111 View Post
    Do you think the company was going to fire this guy as soon as they found someone?? Did he get any warnings? Write ups? Anything negative within the last 2 months? Large # of call backs?? Any reason you know of?? Curious to know what he put on his resume about the company he got fired from. Now the company that fired him will tell other companys that may want to check his reference?? What state, city??
    Just saying, if they fired him right now, he was not valuable to them, and likely was worthless. I would be embarrassed to be fired. Around here no one let's a good tech go, especially not in June for pity's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    To be a hostile work environment according to the US Supreme Court it has to be harassment to a protected class such as over 40, based on gender, race, religion etc. And to top it off that does not prohibit all verbal and physical harassment in the workplace. And even if they were targeting a certain protected class there is always an excuse to say that it is not. Generally in practice anyways.

    But the guy that got fired may have some options. If your company gives bonuses I would have him look at these articles and look into the FLSA which I will attach and start at section 778.208 BONUSES. He may have some money due him as well you might. It will go back 2 years and up to 3 years depending on circumstances. If this is applicable he just need to call Wage and Hour Division.

    As was already stated Fla is an at will state so he can be fired for no reason but there may be some laws in an employees favor.

    What is right is right right?

    http://www.ie3media.com/cracking-the-overtime-code/

    http://contractingbusiness.com/women...ning-halloween

    http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...e29.3.778_1208
    Rather than all that junk, why not just learn a lesson as to why the employer obviously didn't need his services......might actually teach him something important, like, I need to improve.

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