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    Rookie in need of help

    I have been taking my HVAC classes online and just finished my course. I have been getting on the job training for almost a year now. I have been doing new install and service calls. I love the HVAC field and I really enjoy my work but I really feel like my company isn't doing things right. My boss is a private business owner who does not pull permits ( I have friends in the HVAC field at other companies in the area that say this is common ). Whats this about? I think there is only one reason you wouldn't want something inspected and that's because you plan on half assing or not doing something up to code. When I first started at this company they did not even own a recovery machine. I didn't know much at the time but I knew that this was definitely unacceptable, I said something to the tech that was training me and soon after the boss bought one. In my books it talks about calculating superheat and using tp cards and these are all things that do not get done. The tech says just put the gauges on and for a R22 system it should read around 75 psi on the low side and check the suction line to see how cold it is and for sweat back. The high side should be between 125 and 150. When installing a new unit or recharging a system that had a leak about a 10 to 15 min vacuum is pulled. No micron gauge is used and I am certain that a 500 micron vacuum is not being pulled. I am constantly told that the stuff in my book isn't practical in the field. I have ran out of gas multiple times in the van because he will not put gas in them, I went to cash my check this weekend and it was hot and this isn't the first time. I am sick of this place. I feel that if a customer is paying top notch prices they should be receiving top notch service. I could complain about this place all day long. In my state 2 years of HVAC experience is needed to get your contractor license. Is my company required to register me with the state so that I can prove I have had experience, or is simply working for his company enough? I want to open my own business one day, probably something from home and do service and change outs. Basically I want to know if I am being trained wrong and am I screwed or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkins990 View Post
    Basically I want to know if I am being trained wrong and am I screwed or what?
    You are being trained wrong, and if you stay, you are screwed.
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    Leave as soon as you can.

    Any employer that bounces my check will no longer be my employer.

    I would also have written complaints to everyone from OSHA to the BBB on file come Monday.

    These are the hacks that give us all a bad name.

    By the way... What city/state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zw17 View Post
    Leave as soon as you can.

    Any employer that bounces my check will no longer be my employer.

    I would also have written complaints to everyone from OSHA to the BBB on file come Monday.

    These are the hacks that give us all a bad name.

    By the way... What city/state?
    You are doing yourself a great disservice staying there. The longer you are there, the longer it will take to get the stink of them off of you. Good luck, find a better shop.
    Nemo me impune lacessit.

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    I have been where you are a few times. Consider it a camping spot until you find a better one.
    Never argue with a crazy man.

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    A bounce checked? Unacceptable. The day my employer doesn't pay me for my weeks work, I'm out of there.

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    I used to work with a guy who said he had to race his co-workers to the bank on friday afternoon because one of their paychecks was going to bounce.
    "There is no greater inequality than the equal treatment of unequals."

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    Personally, I wouldn't return to work until the check cleared. Thankfully, I've never had that happen to me.

    A bad paycheck is called, "theft of service" and is a crime where I live. You might consider contacting you district attorney's office if your employer doesn't pay you.

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    A bounced check could be forgivable once. But that's it.

    On the other issues, well guys like this have multiple callbacks every week if not every day. He using cashing in his customers for a one time payout and you can be certain he's doing the same with his employees.
    Run. Do not walk, RUN away from this turd. Nothing he has taught you is reliable.

    Where I'm at it's nearly impossible to find good help. Someone better will hire you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    I used to work with a guy who said he had to race his co-workers to the bank on friday afternoon because one of their paychecks was going to bounce.
    I once worked for a guy like that.
    YOU SHALL REAP WHAT YOU HAVE _______ SOWN

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    Been there done that.
    Worked for dozens of places like that!!!
    But not since i joined the union!

    Good luck!

    Frank

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    Well i have been with a few companies that i did not want to be with anymore but sometimes you gotta wait til a better opportunity comes up. Im not saying that switching companies often is also good. after you been with a few companies you will recongize which companies are worth staying or going. Union isnt always the better route. i have never been with the union and sometimes i wished i was. but. there are times where i say to myself is it really greener on the other side. i have a few friends working in the union and every time i call them they are at home. that tells me something i guess. its ur choice. A company is a company doesnt matter if its union or not. work towards ur cfq(Canada) in refrigeration that is what we all work towards now adays. Have fun

    -I always say this to myself. as long as you know you do good work no one can ever take that away from you.

    If i was in your position, i would quickly find some other company to work for. but still work hard at your current company and give them your 2 week notice if they accept and leave. Remember never leave a company on bad terms, Just say its just not workig out for me here good luck and thats it. your fellow employees will see this stuff and one day you may run into them again.
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    when it has to be done
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    And doing it all the time.

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