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  1. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    Why is it when I see Ryan I want to b$tch slap the guy? Reminds me of a televangelist when he walks around with the mike and with his limited experience on this planet tells me what's right. Has he ever had a job
    Are you talking about this guy?

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    I'm sure MSNBC is biased toward Obama. But, the guy's a Douche!!!!!!!
    The dishes were already clean!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    Well you probably are not going to get your chance to see that Giant MSM *itch slap.

    Especially if to make it happen Mitty has to win the election.

    Of course "Anything" is possible. Just not likely.

    Mitty is going to need victories in Nevada, Iowa, Florida, Wisconsin, and Colorado to win.

    Good luck winning all those states.

    Loosing 1 or 2 of these states depending on the number of their electorial votes and it is over for him.

    He is behind in Nevada, Iowa, Wisconsin and virtually tied in Florida, and Colorado.

    So here is some news for all you repubs that act like Mitty is winning.

    He is not.

    The reality is he is behind in the electorial college system and most people have already made up their minds.

    There simply isn't enough undecided voters left to make any difference.
    Hey tech, are all those illegals working for you afraid that if Romney wins they might have to hook em back to Nogales? Bwah ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Hey tech, are all those illegals working for you afraid that if Romney wins they might have to hook em back to Nogales? Bwah ha ha.
    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    No
    Mcjo, I suggest you check yourself into a padded cell at your local hospital on Nov. 6th so you won't hurt yourself or anyone else when the election results come in and your hero is ousted.

    I know this will be to hard for you to bear while the rest of us are celebrating in wild joy about America regaining its Constitution and freedom. Hope you can handle it. Just kidding. Have a good day there. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    Limited experience! Look at BHO's experience. and they all are liars, they are politicians it goes hand in hand.
    I asked to try to keep this on Romney/Rand...I mean Ryan (same difference). It's ez to get distracted when others are thrown into the mix. Not All politicans are liars. There are honest people in all elected offices. That's why making a dicision of how you are going to deal with Romney/Ryan lies is important.
    "What Fools these mortals be"....Puck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special Ed View Post
    Yes, but what bothers me even more is why a guy who's living in a past wrought by his father who was a drunk and an anti-colonial Socialist is so intent on vengeance that he feels compelled to bring an entire nation - and as an indirect consequence, the whole world as well - to its knees.

    Why would you or anyone else want to vote for a man like that? So you can have government-run healthcare, hand-outs, and abortions on demand?! Really??!!
    What is this??? Judged by the sins of the father? You really need to drink from another well.
    If men could get pregnant, abortions would be a sacrament. Que! No!?
    "What Fools these mortals be"....Puck

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-fridge View Post
    I don't approve of Mittcare, but if you're going to do something like that the state level is the place. Mitt has pledged to stop Obamacare and we should hold his feet to the fire WHEN he becomes president.
    If you don't think something has to be done about health care costs you must be having yours subsidized by an employer or a wife's employer. What happens when that goes away. When it's too expensive and employers discover people are willing to work w/o it many will drop the Bennie. If I hire a journeyman today and he works 2000 hours his health care benefit costs me just over 13000/year. 15 years ago it was 3100. So are you saying stay the course?
    Think about hospital costs dropping if everyone was insured. The insurance industry was involved in this law.
    "What Fools these mortals be"....Puck

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    If you don't think something has to be done about health care costs you must be having yours subsidized by an employer or a wife's employer. What happens when that goes away. When it's too expensive and employers discover people are willing to work w/o it many will drop the Bennie. If I hire a journeyman today and he works 2000 hours his health care benefit costs me just over 13000/year. 15 years ago it was 3100. So are you saying stay the course?
    Think about hospital costs dropping if everyone was insured. The insurance industry was involved in this law.
    Regulations/Half Baked Lawsuits/Illegals/Career Welfare Bums......Thats why Premiums go up. And you want more Government involvement? Thats like cutting your head off to cure a headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    If you don't think something has to be done about health care costs you must be having yours subsidized by an employer or a wife's employer. What happens when that goes away. When it's too expensive and employers discover people are willing to work w/o it many will drop the Bennie. If I hire a journeyman today and he works 2000 hours his health care benefit costs me just over 13000/year. 15 years ago it was 3100. So are you saying stay the course?
    Think about hospital costs dropping if everyone was insured. The insurance industry was involved in this law.

    This completely removes the need for insurance companies to compete on cost. The premiums will go up, because people wont be able to cancel them if they get expensive. If your going to be liberal please atleast push for something thats liberal like single payer. Forcing everyone to be covered does nothing to make it more affordable. If people are universaly insured they will use it, so the idea that forcing everyone to be covered will reduce the cost does not hold water. Increased demand on healthcare means that the price will go up. The only people this bill helps is the insurance industry, so yes, you can tell they where involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post
    This completely removes the need for insurance companies to compete on cost. The premiums will go up, because people wont be able to cancel them if they get expensive. If your going to be liberal please atleast push for something thats liberal like single payer. Forcing everyone to be covered does nothing to make it more affordable. If people are universaly insured they will use it, so the idea that forcing everyone to be covered will reduce the cost does not hold water. Increased demand on healthcare means that the price will go up. The only people this bill helps is the insurance industry, so yes, you can tell they where involved.
    Amen....However....you forgot the huge drop in quality care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wherzamizat View Post
    Amen....However....you forgot the huge drop in quality care.
    Short term, you will have a drop in quality care, but long term this is going to encourge entry into the healthcare feild simply because it will be seen as economy proof. If everyone is forced to have insurance everyone is going to use it, so demand will increase, and long term supply should rise to meet demand. If it did not remove the risk of people canceling their insurance as a way of controlling price, it might have worked. That mandate is its flaw, and its a massive flaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post
    Short term, you will have a drop in quality care, but long term this is going to encourge entry into the healthcare feild simply because it will be seen as economy proof. If everyone is forced to have insurance everyone is going to use it, so demand will increase, and long term supply should rise to meet demand. If it did not remove the risk of people canceling their insurance as a way of controlling price, it might have worked. That mandate is its flaw, and its a massive flaw.
    Well you're optimistic. I am told that many existing MD's are preparing to throttle back and be more restrictive on who they see and what they accept and others (the ones who can) might just fold up and retire earlier than planned, rather than deal with it. Also told that recruiting the brightest future pool would suffer as well. Its bad news ...however you slice it.

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