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Thread: Tonights Presidential Debate
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10-18-2012, 12:01 AM #79
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10-18-2012, 12:12 AM #80
I'm sure MSNBC is biased toward Obama. But, the guy's a Douche!!!!!!!

The dishes were already clean!!!!
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10-18-2012, 04:57 AM #81
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10-18-2012, 09:20 AM #82
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10-18-2012, 11:38 AM #83
Mcjo, I suggest you check yourself into a padded cell at your local hospital on Nov. 6th so you won't hurt yourself or anyone else when the election results come in and your hero is ousted.
I know this will be to hard for you to bear while the rest of us are celebrating in wild joy about America regaining its Constitution and freedom. Hope you can handle it.
Just kidding. Have a good day there
. Thank you, thank you very much
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10-18-2012, 03:55 PM #84
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I asked to try to keep this on Romney/Rand...I mean Ryan (same difference). It's ez to get distracted when others are thrown into the mix. Not All politicans are liars. There are honest people in all elected offices. That's why making a dicision of how you are going to deal with Romney/Ryan lies is important.
Tracers work both ways.
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10-18-2012, 04:03 PM #85
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10-18-2012, 04:16 PM #86
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If you don't think something has to be done about health care costs you must be having yours subsidized by an employer or a wife's employer. What happens when that goes away. When it's too expensive and employers discover people are willing to work w/o it many will drop the Bennie. If I hire a journeyman today and he works 2000 hours his health care benefit costs me just over 13000/year. 15 years ago it was 3100. So are you saying stay the course?
Think about hospital costs dropping if everyone was insured. The insurance industry was involved in this law.Tracers work both ways.
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10-18-2012, 05:24 PM #87
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10-18-2012, 05:34 PM #88
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This completely removes the need for insurance companies to compete on cost. The premiums will go up, because people wont be able to cancel them if they get expensive. If your going to be liberal please atleast push for something thats liberal like single payer. Forcing everyone to be covered does nothing to make it more affordable. If people are universaly insured they will use it, so the idea that forcing everyone to be covered will reduce the cost does not hold water. Increased demand on healthcare means that the price will go up. The only people this bill helps is the insurance industry, so yes, you can tell they where involved.
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10-18-2012, 05:40 PM #89
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10-18-2012, 05:50 PM #90
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Short term, you will have a drop in quality care, but long term this is going to encourge entry into the healthcare feild simply because it will be seen as economy proof. If everyone is forced to have insurance everyone is going to use it, so demand will increase, and long term supply should rise to meet demand. If it did not remove the risk of people canceling their insurance as a way of controlling price, it might have worked. That mandate is its flaw, and its a massive flaw.
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10-18-2012, 06:28 PM #91
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Well you're optimistic. I am told that many existing MD's are preparing to throttle back and be more restrictive on who they see and what they accept and others (the ones who can) might just fold up and retire earlier than planned, rather than deal with it. Also told that recruiting the brightest future pool would suffer as well. Its bad news ...however you slice it.



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