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  1. #66
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    I can see why you are not getting any where with that attitude.

    What is your qualifications? Experience? Time in the field? How is your people skills? never mind on that we know already.

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    OK, Here is another way to look at it. Most companies will have new guys do routine maintenance until they know he's not going to screw up a major account or something of that nature. Routine Maintenance is not routine lots of time. Analyzing a system during that process and finding problems or soon to be problems is part of it also. If guys doing maintenance are missing things that others are having to follow up on, that extends their stay in maintenance.
    Oh, and if you are "lucky enough" :-) to end up in a 140 degree attic some day trying to sort out someone else's rats nest of a wiring job, you just may wish you were outside cleaning coils.
    Every problem gives us the opportunity to choose from several solutions: stupidity, ignorance, indifference, or brilliance. Which one will you choose?

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    Your not giving anybody any information on your qualifications. Like the others said most people have good test taking skills get a few certs from NATE and an epa and think they can do it all. I have a buddy I worked with and graduated from tech school with and the guy could not get out of the text book. He would charge a system being 60 degrees out but he was doing everything like it was a 90 degree day. When brought up that it wasnt 90 he was like a deer in headlights as to what to do. Alot of guys are not great at test but in the feild is another story. I dont take much from people saying they have a degree or certification becuase I have met to many people who take a test like its there job and when they go do the job there a complete reject. For all we know your maintence job is your first job in the field and you have only been there 2 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHVA View Post
    Now I sound childish? This gets better and better.

    Hey, I wonder if a Bachelor Of Science degree means SQUAT as well? (can't wait 'till I here the asnwers)

    Yes, childish, I don't think you have handled yourself maturely more than one time in this thread.

    I am a union service Journeyman and when you turn out you have a BS, an EPA Cert., are Star certified and have attended at least one factory training program. I have been to Trane Centrifugal classes, LEED accreditation classes, Eaton VFD service and start up certification, JCI Metasys training, Electric motor troubleshooting, Vibration and balance classes, advanced electrical troubleshooting classes, welding certification classes among many others, does not make me an expert in any of them, not even close.

    I have diagnosed, estimated and repaired 2000 ton centrifugal chillers, installed and commissioned dozens of VFD's in various pieces of equipment, written programs for building automation, been involved in NUMEROUS Green Build Leed certified projects, many of them Gold or Platinum, worked on clean rooms and labs to obtain ridiculous specs. among many more I'm sure...

    So there, do you feel better now?, I have shown you mine....

    So from what you have given us so far, you have not set yourself apart from an apprentice. Not by a long shot.

    Again, "text book technician"....


    I am finding it a little hard to believe that you have not humbled up even a little bit with the VAST MAJORITY of the posters in YOUR thread giving you great feedback about your attitude.

    We have hired some pretty good guys out of the trade schools and local colleges and they are barely entry level, they know some terminology and theory, but when it comes down to actually troubleshooting, writing up and ultimately repairing they are humbled virtually immediately. They get better by asking intelligent questions and being the "grunt" for a year or two before getting into a zone. We all need assistance once in a while, that is why this site exists IMHO. Anybody who claims to know it all fakes it a lot.....Or is very lucky.

    Just my humble observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHVA View Post
    WOW! This is truely shocking. jpsmith1cm you're giving me advice when you're telling me that NATE ...Yes....NATE the people that sponsor on this website....in your own words "NATE means SQUAT." I should take advice from a guy that is bashing the same company that does business with this website, that I'm guessing you're affiliated with?? So, NATE means SQUAT, got it! Oh yeah same goes for the EPA. Alright thanks for the advice I hope I can use this in my career.

    Unreal.
    NATE certification and a buck and a half will get you a cup of coffee in most cities.

    What it WON'T do is make up for a poor attitude, which it sounds like you have.

    There are no shortcuts and there are no freebies.

    My 11 year old could memorize and regurgitate the facts required to pass an EPA test. It isn't a big deal, PLUS, it is rapidly becoming meaningless in our trade as HFC refrigerants take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHVA View Post
    Now I sound childish? This gets better and better.

    Hey, I wonder if a Bachelor Of Science degree means SQUAT as well? (can't wait 'till I here the asnwers)
    I've worked with guys with that same degree.

    I have to say that I wasn't impressed with their knowledge and abilities straight out of school.

    Guess what they did for 2-3 years?


    If you guessed PMs, you'd be right.

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    Pms are just a fact of life for a newb. Just be glad your working, I'm sure there are 20 people ready to take your job
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    we have had many with that degree not even make it through the first year probationary period!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!

    then again one of our best guys has that degree???????????????????

    i said it earlier

    it MAY? help you get a job and that is it!

    MAY???????????????????



    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I've worked with guys with that same degree.

    I have to say that I wasn't impressed with their knowledge and abilities straight out of school.

    Guess what they did for 2-3 years?


    If you guessed PMs, you'd be right.
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    for what its worth?

    in the early 90's I worked for a shop with about 30 guys.
    3 of them had law degrees or JD and had passed the BAR exam??????????????

    go figure??????????


    I have a GED or i think i do?
    if i do I lost it about 30 years ago?

    GED or no GED, I seem to be pretty good at fixing air conditioners??????

    or at least my boss thinks I am good at it!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!
    I WILL SELL WORK,GENERATE BUSINESS, GO GET NEW CUSTOMERS!
    YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND QUIT RUNNING YOUR MOUTH!

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    Funny thread. 17 years in the trade, work for Trane, still maintain equipment for proper operation and buildings for proper performance.

    Dude, unless your banging duct together, your maintaining equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertek65 View Post
    for what its worth?

    in the early 90's I worked for a shop with about 30 guys.
    3 of them had law degrees or JD and had passed the BAR exam??????????????

    go figure??????????


    I have a GED or i think i do?
    if i do I lost it about 30 years ago?

    GED or no GED, I seem to be pretty good at fixing air conditioners??????

    or at least my boss thinks I am good at it!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!
    You don't fix anything anymore. Your "people" do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan1088 View Post
    You don't fix anything anymore. Your "people" do!
    I fix the things that my people cannot....


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I fix the things that my people cannot....

    I know you do, we were talking about Frank here!!!

    It feels like things have snowballed on me lately, like there's no catching up to the work load?

    I actually spent all day washing condensers!!!

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