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  1. #274
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    Exactly what has Obambam done for the middle class except act like he cares? Did he stop the massive offshoring of manufacturing jobs to China and Mexico? No. Did he try to bring back the millions of middle class jobs lost to China and Mexico? No. Did he go along with the republicans on free trade with S. Korea, Columbia and Panama thereby making it even easier to offshore jobs to those 3 countries? Yes he did. Has he tried to reign in the massive trade deficit with China and the rest of the world by limiting imports from these countries or imposing tariffs? No. Has Obama and his thugs imposed hundreds of new regulations on American business big and small? Yes, he sure has. Has Obama tried to get rid of coal workers? Yes. Did Obama approve the Keystone Pipeline thereby creating thousands of middle class jobs? No.

    About the only thing boy wonder has done for the middle class is to allow us to get food stamps easier because it's sure a heck of a lot tougher to get a job.

    Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president with the media trying to make him out to be something he is not.

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    So we should get rid of Obama and replace him with this guy?

    Job growth in Massachusetts rose at a rate of 1.5 percent (compared to the national average of 5.3 percent), placing Massachusetts 47th of the 50 states in new job creation over the course of Romney’s term.

    Much of the improvement in unemployment during Romney’s first three years in office reflected the loss of working-age adults from the labor force,many of them having left Massachusetts for other states during the period. Massachusetts experienced one of the highest levels of net out-migration of any state during Romney's term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    So we should get rid of Obama and replace him with this guy?

    Job growth in Massachusetts rose at a rate of 1.5 percent (compared to the national average of 5.3 percent), placing Massachusetts 47th of the 50 states in new job creation over the course of Romney's term.

    Much of the improvement in unemployment during Romney's first three years in office reflected the loss of working-age adults from the labor force,many of them having left Massachusetts for other states during the period. Massachusetts experienced one of the highest levels of net out-migration of any state during Romney's term.
    ANYTHING is better than what Obama has done according to some people, even if it means persecution.

    I have a feeling that some hatred for our current president runs deeper than economics.

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    The 99% vs the 1% is so ridiculous and in Obama's mind all Americans are the 1% because out of the world we are.

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    32 minutes til Biden gets his ass handed to him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    32 minutes til Biden gets his ass handed to him!
    I don't know that it matters..Romney has to win Florida..without it he has to win every other undecided state.

    I don't know what the big fuss over Ohio is...Florida will be the key state in this election.

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    The polls are not even close to what it will look like on Election Day. I'm predicting a landslide victory for Romney

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    The polls are not even close to what it will look like on Election Day. I'm predicting a landslide victory for Romney
    You should also say victory for freedom and defeat for increasing socialism and job losses. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    Wow! We've just had a discussion with different opinions in the ARP and nobody resorted to name calling!
    Yeah, probably should mark our calendars... may not happen much until after the election...
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Allow me to educate you.

    • 83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.
    • 61 percent of Americans “always or usually” live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
    • 66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.
    • 36 percent of Americans say that they don’t contribute anything to retirement savings.
    • A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.
    • 24 percent of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.
    • Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008.
    • Only the top 5 percent of U.S. households have earned enough additional income to match the rise in housing costs since 1975.
    • For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.
    • In 1950, the ratio of the average executive’s paycheck to the average worker’s paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.
    • As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7% of the liquid financial assets.
    • The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth.
    • Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008.
    • The top 1 percent of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America’s corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
    • In America today, the average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks.
    • More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
    • This is what American workers now must compete against: in China a garment worker makes approximately 86 cents an hour and in Cambodia a garment worker makes approximately 22 cents an hour.
    • Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 – the highest rate in 20 years.
    • Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.
    • The top 10 percent of Americans now earn around 50 percent of our national income.

    While these numbers do not include 2012 I think you might be enlightened, then again maybe not. I am pleased that in your circle of acquaintances things are just peachy, they are indeed blessed but realize your small circle is not representative of the country as a whole.
    Your statement was: This is true but the resources are tied up at the top and the 99% are struggling to get by.


    GA responded he knew lots of folks not even in the top 10% who were NOT struggling.

    None of your so called facts refute the error that 99% are struggling.

    Sorry, the idea 99% of folks are struggling is just pure BS... based to mislead folks into thinking things which are just NOT true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    I don't know that it matters..Romney has to win Florida..without it he has to win every other undecided state.

    I don't know what the big fuss over Ohio is...Florida will be the key state in this election.
    Might want to check this poll... as of Thursday the 11th of Oct:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1883.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Allow me to educate you.

    • 83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.
    • 61 percent of Americans “always or usually” live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
    • 66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.
    • 36 percent of Americans say that they don’t contribute anything to retirement savings.
    • A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.
    • 24 percent of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.
    • Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008.
    • Only the top 5 percent of U.S. households have earned enough additional income to match the rise in housing costs since 1975.
    • For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.
    • In 1950, the ratio of the average executive’s paycheck to the average worker’s paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.
    • As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7% of the liquid financial assets.
    • The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth.
    • Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008.
    • The top 1 percent of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America’s corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
    • In America today, the average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks.
    • More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
    • This is what American workers now must compete against: in China a garment worker makes approximately 86 cents an hour and in Cambodia a garment worker makes approximately 22 cents an hour.
    • Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 – the highest rate in 20 years.
    • Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.
    • The top 10 percent of Americans now earn around 50 percent of our national income.

    While these numbers do not include 2012 I think you might be enlightened, then again maybe not. I am pleased that in your circle of acquaintances things are just peachy, they are indeed blessed but realize your small circle is not representative of the country as a whole.
    Gotta agree with GA on this one. Just saw a new Prius the other day with a "I'm one of the 99%" stickers the other day. LOL!
    Most Americans that are struggling are cause of overspending and lack of knowledge when it comes to finances. Our own govt has taught us these lousy lessons. Borrow and spend.
    Walmart stock has almost doubled in the past 5yrs.
    Last Christmas saw an increase in spending.
    All people aren't broke.
    A lot of the 99% crowd were people that
    1. Borrowed money to get an education then dropped out before finishing.
    2. Borrowed money for an education that pays little for the field they chose.
    3. Borrowed money for an education that wasn't in demand to begin with.
    People don't plan to fail. They fail to plan.
    People are living paycheck because they choose to. No one wants to give up eating out or not spoil their kids at Christmas time.
    The govt can't take care of everyone. You have to take care of yourself. And if you can't fi e up certain things to make ends meet or to even get ahead, its not Wallstreets fault. It's not the govts fault.
    The 99%ers need to start taking responsibility for themselves and stop blaming the 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    So we should get rid of Obama and replace him with this guy?

    Job growth in Massachusetts rose at a rate of 1.5 percent (compared to the national average of 5.3 percent), placing Massachusetts 47th of the 50 states in new job creation over the course of Romney’s term.

    Much of the improvement in unemployment during Romney’s first three years in office reflected the loss of working-age adults from the labor force,many of them having left Massachusetts for other states during the period. Massachusetts experienced one of the highest levels of net out-migration of any state during Romney's term.
    Ask most Conservatives and they will tell you Romney is not their first choice. Sure wasn't mine. But I don't want another 4yrs of the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    ANYTHING is better than what Obama has done according to some people, even if it means persecution.

    I have a feeling that some hatred for our current president runs deeper than economics.
    Let's not play the race card.

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