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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman06 View Post
    Sounds like you have find a good contractor that has done all the work to ensure the system will be sized proper for your home.

    If he impressed you with his knowledge of the system, ductwork and is sure the new systems that he quoted will provide you with the comfort you want. Then i would suggest sign the contract but make sure that it is a detailed estimate explaining what all he and his company will do for $$$$.

    If you do seek out other estimates make sure the other contractors do all the work to determine the proper size system for your home!

    Any contractor can cut his price to get the work but did he truly earn your business? If he goes off what the contractor you were impressed with load cal. Then the other companies can easily cut the price as they didn't spend time doing all there homework. So they can cut his price down because they used his info. To do so!

    Again if he impressed you, is 100% sure his equipment will deliver the comfort you seek and backs it up with a detailed load cal. And proposal then I would choose that company.

    Thanks for the information. I have pretty much decided not to even check other contractors. I have a few reasons, the main one being I am sold on the Trane units and always have been. I am sure that the other manufacturers make great equipment or else they wouldn't be in business.

    I also realize I could possibly save money by shopping around - even with a different Trane contractor, but I did my homework on this contractor and have been impressed with all aspects of their business model. Yes, times are tough, and I don't have extra money to throw around, but I am going to go with my gut feelings on this.

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catmanacman View Post
    The problem with is you can always find a hack to do do a crappy job cheaper
    Agreed. Was not talking about price though. Was talking about the calc. I'm Confident he has the rite guy but never hurts to get more then one. Just to be sure.

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    40,000 will get it done unless you live really far north. I've NEVER seen an undersized gas furnace, I don't think anybody on this website has either. Manual J will oversize on the heat side just about every time. Most installed gas furnaces are 2-3x the needed capacity. I've seen some companies around here doing it RIGHT and installing 45,000BTU furnaces in 2,200 sqft homes. The contractor is just a bit scared of the result of it not being enough vs. the result of oversizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catmanacman View Post
    The problem with is you can always find a hack to do do a crappy job cheaper
    Yea bring in the next dude and share all the info that other guy gave you for free and he will give you x amount of savings, way of the world, nice guy finishes last. He should have closed the sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 54regcab View Post
    Unless you live far up North I have to question the need for a 60,000BTU furnace with only a 24,000BTU cooling load.
    I do agree with others though, you found your contractor.
    The XV95 doesn't come in a 40k BTU model. The XT95 does, but its' single stage, so you might as well go 60k BTU 2 stage, since low stage will be very slightly lower at 37k BTU output compared to 38k... and better utilize setbacks. There's the XC95m... but it's going to be a LOT more expensive. Only worth it in a northern climate or a luxury home.

    Going form a 3 ton 9 SEER to a 2 ton 15 SEER, should cut you cooling costs in half.... or more. You're static pressure will drop, airflow/CFM will likely increase, and longer run times will net you about another 20-25% on top of the SEER rating, and humidty should be controlled a little better... and it should be quieter indoors and outdoors too.

    I would ask the contractor if he can install a thermostat that control to humidty and can wire up the dehumidify on demand feature of the blwoer control on the furnace. It's better than "Comfort-R" mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toocoolforschool View Post
    Yea bring in the next dude and share all the info that other guy gave you for free and he will give you x amount of savings, way of the world, nice guy finishes last. He should have closed the sale.
    Don't give the second or third guy any info. Let them calc and see if they jive. What if the first guy is the second guy you discribed but puts on a good show? Why would you assume the fist guy is load calc Jesus and and every one else is the devil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy knocker View Post
    Don't give the second or third guy any info. Let them calc and see if they jive. What if the first guy is the second guy you discribed but puts on a good show? Why would you assume the fist guy is load calc Jesus and and every one else is the devil?
    I have been thinking it over and I think, just for peace of mind, that I will go ahead and have another contractor come out and give my system a look and see what he has to say. So Monday I am going to have an American Standard contractor give me a bid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomby View Post
    I had a contractor come out today. He spent over 3 hours here and about two of those hours were measuring and calculating my home. He went into the attic and crawlspace, inspected both the inside and outside units and did some tests on each. I was very impressed with not only his knowledge, but also at the end he was not pushing me to buy anything.

    I was kind of shocked that when he ran the numbers for my outside unit, it came back as not only a 3 ton unit (I thought it was a 2 ton) but he also informed the unit was built in 1988 (My house was built in 1998.

    The good news is both my attic (30-R) and walls (14-R) insulation was fine.

    The interesting news in after all his calculation/measuring he said my current AC unit is too big and I should go down to a 2 ton unit.
    The current gas furnace is 75,000 btu at 80%. He suggested to downsize that as well to 60,000 btu and of course the more efficient 97%.

    , but I think I was given a very good price for a Trane 4ttr5024and a Trane XV95.

    Thoughts?
    So, Is the smaller sized units also more or less substantiated by your relatively reasonable utility use/costs?
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    Can I ask what originally prompted the contractor visit in the first place?
    Always here

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    Quote Originally Posted by energy star View Post
    Can I ask what originally prompted the contractor visit in the first place?
    I called them because my current system has issues and is 14 years old.

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    It's not the equipment. Its the installation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by energy star View Post
    It's not the equipment. Its the installation.
    I am not sure what you are saying here?

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    Highly unlikely to get 2 or 3 contractors that will do a load calculation ,can't hurt to get a second quote but don't let a few hundred bucks change your mind .also would get the 10 yr part and labor warranty
    We really need change now

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