Can I ask what originally prompted the contractor visit in the first place?
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Can I ask what originally prompted the contractor visit in the first place?
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It's not the equipment. Its the installation.
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Highly unlikely to get 2 or 3 contractors that will do a load calculation ,can't hurt to get a second quote but don't let a few hundred bucks change your mind .also would get the 10 yr part and labor warranty
it all sounds good..... nothing wrong with more quotes.... once you give the job out your married
it was working.... played with it.... now its broke.... whats the going hourly rate for HVAC repair
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I hate it when customers do that. I had a guy do it over XXXX on a dual fuel system and he had to call me 10 months later to come fix everything. He ended up paying me XXX for all the repairs leaving him with a grand total of XXX more than I quoted him to end up with a shotty installation and a heapin' helpin' of heartache.
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America; first we fight for our freedom,
then we make laws to take it away.
-Alfred E Newman
If you have a Coleman/York outside your house for 14yrs, how and why did you decide or pick Trane equipment as your next equipment choice?
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You definitely have
enough experience to know that
the vast majority of homeowners are preset to be cheap and not tru$ting of Mechanical Contractor$.
The understanding of HVAC and IAQ Value is not a virtue gained by a mental osmosis proocess nor inherited.
HomeOwners actually have quite a formidable job to try to gain confidence, trust and understanding in the current environment.
For example, how Many people PLAN on changing their systems out based on poor performance prior to "it's death".
The only one's that will have proper information to do this will likely be the homeowners that have a trustworthy mechanical contractor performing semi-annual maintenance over a period of years.
If you have read threads by Florida Joy here, you may be familar with a truly unique, smart individual who takes a significant amount of time to gain an understanding of the real HVAC and building envelope issues.
If there were a real source of " word-of-mouth advertising", such as Wide spread use of a reputable Angie's List or SIMILAR , the trust of contractors would be more reasonable.
Maybe the current 20's- 40's generation with a vast social media use will be able to better interact this way to effectively transition " the Hack" to a thing of the Past or at least a VERY Difficult environment for one to operate in.
One can only HOPE.
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Designer Dan __ It's Not Rocket Science, But It is SCIENCE with Some Art. _ _ KEEP IT SIMPLE & SINCERE ___ __ www.mysimplifiedhvac.com ___ __ Define the Building Envelope & Perform a Detailed Load Calc: It's ALL About Windows & Make-up Air Requirements. Know Your Equipment Capabilities
I didn't HEAR any1 say
________ compressors would be quiet for 15+ years.
What do people do when they are sick or irratated, Y E L L !
We saw people yelling for help.
I heard someone yelling my name.
The crowd was yelling wildly.
Could it be that equipment wishes to emulate humans?
Certainly, brain transplants will be performed with an electronic package with sufficient "thinking" capacity to present a real evolution in life.
When were heart transplants thought of as a impossiblity? Only a few decades ago.
The initial phase of Brain transplants is definitely within a few decades.
Designer Dan __ It's Not Rocket Science, But It is SCIENCE with Some Art. _ _ KEEP IT SIMPLE & SINCERE ___ __ www.mysimplifiedhvac.com ___ __ Define the Building Envelope & Perform a Detailed Load Calc: It's ALL About Windows & Make-up Air Requirements. Know Your Equipment Capabilities
Don't get me wrong trane makes a good product and if that is what the contractor you choose uses then definitely use their product because they will be more familiar with it, but it is no better than York, carrier, Lennox etc. The only reason peope think Trane is so great is because they spend Mega bucks on marketing and advertising. I've heard that each piece of equipment trane produces has a 6$ advertising markup which is huge when you are talking about millions of pieces per year. Trane parts OEM parts are priced high compared to other brands as well. The equipment really has little to do with the proper operation, it the installation, sizing and duct sizing that makes the difference in a long lasting reliable hvac system or a POS hvac system.
I am going to say this to get straight to the point. I would choose Trane if i were you. You have been impressed by sales rep. That cares trane, you want Trane and they make a great system if installed properly.
Although I sale Trane, have Trane in my home and have suggested getting Trane. I have no dog in the fight but if you fell comfortable withe the trane dealer and you want trane buy it you want be sorry as long as installed properly, serviced properly and have full warranty.