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  1. #14
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    On the other hand., a church that's not had cooling before, I suspect they don't have high expectations and might prefer $ savings over perfection, at least in the first pass.
    Which makes more sense to you?
    CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
    ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%

    DO THE NUMBERS! Step on a HOMESCALE.
    What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!

    Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to BPI.org, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedkidd View Post
    On the other hand., a church that's not had cooling before, I suspect they don't have high expectations and might prefer $ savings over perfection, at least in the first pass.
    Under sized will make it a hot sticky church.

    Money spent with no return in comfort is never a savings. But can make for many unwanted conversations between the church members.
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    Smile

    I was just thinking about 2 funerals I was at recently. One church was really miserable, no ac at all. The other had insufficient equipment to carry the load from a full house, but the cool air offered some relief.

    Anything can be solved with unlimited $. But sometimes there is a balance point that incremental investment does not return justifiable incremental benefit.

    And isn't going to church supposed to be penance for sins? Most would conjecture there's no AC in hell.
    Which makes more sense to you?
    CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
    ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%

    DO THE NUMBERS! Step on a HOMESCALE.
    What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!

    Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to BPI.org, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.

  5. #18
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    I had a guy in a resturaunt ask me to do the same thing I turned down the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedkidd View Post
    I was just thinking about 2 funerals I was at recently. One church was really miserable, no ac at all. The other had insufficient equipment to carry the load from a full house, but the cool air offered some relief.

    Anything can be solved with unlimited $. But sometimes there is a balance point that incremental investment does not return justifiable incremental benefit.

    And isn't going to church supposed to be penance for sins? Most would conjecture there's no AC in hell.
    Going to church service is not for penitence. As least not everytime, or for everyone that goes. Maybe in your church it is though. ROFL

    Doesn't take unlimited $$$$. And they do get a break, No sales tax.
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    any job worth doing is worth doing write if not make sure they pray for comfort and you

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    lol

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    Question

    why dont you want to install a supply and return trunk system

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    Ceiling fans will help too. Many times they make it "feel" cooler.

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