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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Culpable is a good term to use. With all the money we spend on so called "intelligence", our government agencies certainly should have been able to detect signs that forces were plotting against us.
    The same can be said about our "intelligence" prior to invading Iraq. Israel is Iraq’s next door neighbor and constantly watches them from above and within. You cannot say that Israel was also fooled into thinking they had WMD’s. But Israel wanted us to take out Saddam’s massive army and infrastructure so they just sat on that info and let the U.S., their little puppet, do their dirty work.

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    Robo is entitled to his opinion as well as others who disagree with the sabotage evidence. After all, there wouldn't be any right people if there were not any wrong people now would there?

    The truth will not be hidden long and will come out eventually...when everyone involved is in their 80's or dead.
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    There is no 9/11 sabotage evidence, apparently only things that have been constructed in agenda-laden minds. That's the point.

    Jeez, even Wiki says what all other basic science texts say. Facts muct be verified in order to be considered facts.

    Look it up!

    Ok, so where's the evidence? I wish to hold it in my hand or observe it for myself.

    That folks here don't understand what science is or how it works is not the fault of science. It is the fault of people who refuse to consult a seventh grade science text.

    I'd link you to one, but then of course, it will remain unread and then even dismissed by the very people who didn't read it.

    Amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Actually, neither... Rather I (GA) have learned to not make my thoughts simply about me.

    I perceive that stepping back and seeing things as a 'third person' view seems to give GA a better perspective... rather than I this or I that.

    Third person view: Generally defined as a person writing a book or telling a story about themselves, yet through the eyes of a different person than themselves.

    So why take a third person view? Simple: Taking 'me' out of the picture allows the view to be more balanced, most importantly not being swayed by my personal short-comings.

    It is easy to see whether one is thinking, or spouting off, or parroting... simply by how much of themselves is in what they say.

    Yet here is the most important thing: It really is NOT about me... part of growing up in GA's opinion is to learn that simple reality.
    OK, then....now it is officially creepy.


    I hope you realize that you are pretending to be someone else while giving opinions from yourself. So, what kind of third person are you pretending to be? Does your third person not have the exact same opinions that you, the person your third person personification is referring to? If not, then you are not really speakingin the third person, but rather, you are a schizoid.....
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    Ok, I think rather than post a long winded reply about building 7, I will use youtube. The language of science to many here.

    Be sure to note the damage to building 7 from pictures taken from where it actually was instead of the other side of the buildings. DUH! Real honesty we see from the truthers, yes indeed!

    Also please note the photo which clearly establishes that none of the buildings that fell on that day did so "in thier own footprint" as Brian and others claim.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gIv4KwMoic

    Whoops.

    Next I'll look for some pretty pictures or videos that show progressive collapse. That should help some of you intellectuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    So this raises the question...

    If the govt knew it was gonna happen... why did they not stop it?
    What reason was there which was important enough to allow close to 3000 American citizens to be murdered, to destroy the buildings, and destroy that level of records of business and govt activity? Unless someone (or many someones) would profit or not be held accountable for; something or somethings...

    This is a question which John Stossel or perhaps all of Fox (Or most importantly ALL OF AMERICA) should be DEMANDING answers to... However we know it will never happen as long as any of those folks who profited or were vindicated, or their spouses, are alive.
    The answer to why we did not stop the attack is easy; everything run by government agencies is basically inept! The information for the signs that we were being plotted against were there, just being gathered by different agencies that did not work with each other so no one got to see the whole picture.

    So what have we done since to overcome inept government agencies? We created more government agencies......
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrogdog View Post

    Ok, so where's the evidence?
    Where is the Rowell debris?

    But WTC debris isn’t so hard to answer. It was whisked off to China for recycling.

    I wish to hold it in my hand or observe it for myself.
    You are forgetting what you just said. You witnessing or holding something in your hand means nothing to the scientific community, so why bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    OK, then....now it is officially creepy.


    I hope you realize that you are pretending to be someone else while giving opinions from yourself. So, what kind of third person are you pretending to be? Does your third person not have the exact same opinions that you, the person your third person personification is referring to? If not, then you are not really speakingin the third person, but rather, you are a schizoid.....
    Maybe the next step is to introduce a sock puppet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    A discussion about Pearl Harbor is a whole-nother story... many believe FDR knew and let it happen for one or another reason... a short googling will give lots of reasons.

    Fact still remains: Why are these questions not asked? Seems whether a polecat cheats on his wife (with or without her knowing) is more important in the media than whether or not a polecat starts a war or allows the murder of close to 3000 citizens... IMO it does not take a rocket scientist to see there is something wrong there.
    The only government conspiracy surrounding the 9-11 attacks seem to involve government agencies hiding what ever they can that could implicate them for being inept. So yes, government was somewhat responsible for the attacks in the respect that government agencies did not do their jobs correctly in preventing the attacks because government agencies were inept.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Where is the Rowell debris?

    But WTC debris isn’t so hard to answer. It was whisked off to China for recycling.



    You are forgetting what you just said. You witnessing or holding something in your hand means nothing to the scientific community, so why bother?
    No, you are not understanding what I said. It can only be that is intentional, at this point.

    See if you can follow along here, if I can hold it in my hand then I can pass it along to the science community. I'd be happy to do so.

    Where is it?

    Of course debris was whisked off because no one in thier wildest dreams thought it would matter. Why did they think that?

    Because it doesn't. What, you think that molten metal has never been observed from office fires before? Nothing at all unusual about it.

    That's the thing, if normal and expected things happen, science is not surprised, nor are most logical thinkers. Why would we be? Seen it many times before. And as I've said, dozens of scientists were able to perform there work sans debris. Not one of them, that I'm aware of, perhaps you can find one for me, said in their white paper that something was missing from the puzzle because the debris was not recovered.

    Again, why would it be? There was absolutely nothing unusual about it. No science that I read even mentioned debris. Why? Because it is irrelevent.
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    It's a bit difficult to accept information from a site that promotes that the holocaust never happened or that UFO's are causing Earth's weather to change.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    True there robo but lets narrow it down a little. IMO the liberal Democrats in Congress hold most of the blame for the intelligence let down.

    They passed legislation forbidding our intelligence agencies from sharing information. The CIA couldn't talk to the FBI, NSA, etc. Thank you, thank you very much
    Big government is not just the result of Democrats or even liberals. There has been way too much government growth with so called conservative Republican leaders as well. I agree that Democrats and liberals like government growth that takes the U.S. in a Socialist direction, but big government is the result of all political party's, liberals, conservatives and everything in between with the exception of Ron Paul.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    It's a bit difficult to accept information from a site that promotes that the holocaust never happened or that UFO's are causing Earth's weather to change.
    Agreed; everyone knows it is a result of the Annunaki's from the 12 planet.
    If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what will never be. (Thomas Jefferson 1816)

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