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    Honeywell Bacnet Spyder information HELP!

    Hello All,

    I'm trying to bring the Honeywell Spyder into a Niagara AX and the problem I'm having is that once I discover the controller and bring it into the AX I can't get any further with it( Ex. programming, configuring it). I have the Venom .jar files but I really need some information on the controller itself. I have not had the training class on the Spyder so I have no manual or information on the Bacnet version. I have the Lon manual and it really doesn't help with the bacnet Spyder. Any help with the above issue or if anyone is willing to share some bacnet manual on the Spyder would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

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    If you have'nt had any training or experience with the Spyder then your in for an uphill climb. Are you trying to discover an existing spyder and add it to the system? you say you have the venom jar, do you have the spyder tool?
    Go Rangers!

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    Thanks for responding T-Ranger...I have a spyder with a test honeywell ax that I have in a demo panel. Yes I have the spyder tool but it seems to be more for Lon not Bacnet. I know that the class is the best way to go but I like to play with controllers because I feel I can learn more than in a classroom environment. Is it really hard to learn if you don't take the class??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltaforce View Post
    Thanks for responding T-Ranger...I have a spyder with a test honeywell ax that I have in a demo panel. Yes I have the spyder tool but it seems to be more for Lon not Bacnet. I know that the class is the best way to go but I like to play with controllers because I feel I can learn more than in a classroom environment. Is it really hard to learn if you don't take the class??
    There is a picture that depicts the learning curve associated with the Spyder, but I can't find it at the moment. Im sure Digo can post it. But to answer your question, it is not going to be real easy to learn very quickly. I started messing with the Spyder when it first came out before having training and it took some time to get proficient with it.

    What version of the tool are do you currently have loaded?
    Go Rangers!

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    Perhaps this will help to depict the learning curve ahead of you?

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    Ah yes, that is the one I was referring to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lwarren View Post
    Ah yes, that is the one I was referring to.
    I have version 3.6.31 and WOW what a curve!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Worthington View Post
    Perhaps this will help to depict the learning curve ahead of you?

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    Spyders are awesome controllers. Don't appreciate the attempted humor with the product bashing. Its unprofessional and mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wherzamizat View Post
    Spyders are awesome controllers. Don't appreciate the attempted humor with the product bashing. Its unprofessional and mean.
    Easy there man. I don't see where anyone said there weren't. What was said is that you don't just pick one up and plug it in. There is quite a bit of learning to get the hang of them.
    Don't worry zombies are looking for brains, you're safe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wherzamizat View Post
    Spyders are awesome controllers. Don't appreciate the attempted humor with the product bashing. Its unprofessional and mean.
    Easy there buddy, that image helped shape what the spyderTool is today. Yes the hardware awesome, but the software took a little while to get there...

    Which one of these versions have you had the joy of dealing with?
    1.16.1
    1.18.4
    2.0.5
    2.0.8
    3.1.1
    3.1.3
    3.1.7
    4.6.0
    4.8.3
    4.8.8
    4.9.1
    5.18
    5.19.6
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    Is there not a jar file for LON and for BACnet or is that just in the Venom (I think)?
    Don't worry zombies are looking for brains, you're safe...

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    Spyder

    Also take care to know which Rev controller you have, look for a side ways 2 on the sticker next to the part number on the side. If this is there then you may need to flash it back to work with your spyder tool. You will be able to commission it just not load it. I am an old BC network 8000 guy and love the spyders. I don't care what line you work with, there is always room for improvements but the spyders have worked solid for me and the company I work for. I took the class and it shortened the learning curve considerably for me.

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    Looks like it is just in the Venom.

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