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  1. #1
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    Carrier - Why bother with the paint job?

    I don't know why Carrier even bothered specking out this paint job on these suction accumulators when they rust out from under the paint. This is giving Carrier a bad rap in my book as this seems to be happening to all their equipment. You don't see this with other brands.


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    I see it with just about every brand. I try to coat the burned paint areas with rubberizing or cold galvanize after i've made my connections to keep it from rusting again so fast.
    Who wants to drink from the condensate drain?!?!

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    Ok, I also have noticed some manufactures like Lennox don't install these and their equipment does not do this.

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    Carrier didn't make it.

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    I have never seen an accumulator that did not rot out like that, ruud was big with the threads on the bottom. Job security, it is. I remembet whe RE Michels opened near us parker had a tent setup showing new products. There newest proto type was a stainless a cumulator, never hit the market

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    Black works better. (Can't see'em rust as bad.)

    Even in our area where the unit is attacked by corrosion they'll last 10+ years. Most companies in our area sell the HO a new unit once the accumulator goes. If they call me, I'll gladly put a new one in.

    I just pulled a Trane where corrosion ate through the weld on the compressor case.
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    I replaced a rusted leaking one on a 18 yr Carrier- had one I removed from a unit sitting in the shop. The old one in the shop was like new and I guess was 20 years old. Not sure what brand it came from.

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    It's called "patina"...folks pay big bucks for that on antiques...
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    So it is Parker that made this sucker.


    I wanted black but this is all Johnstone had in stock, looks a lot better than the OEM.

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    I worked for a company in.S.C. for one day. They told the H.O. they needed a new unit because of a rusted accumulator. They sold them a new air handler the year before because of a bad blower motor. I quite and went back to commercial. Thats kind of stuff is just plain stealing
    Quote Originally Posted by Home&Marine View Post
    Black works better. (Can't see'em rust as bad.)

    Even in our area where the unit is attacked by corrosion they'll last 10+ years. Most companies in our area sell the HO a new unit once the accumulator goes. If they call me, I'll gladly put a new one in.

    I just pulled a Trane where corrosion ate through the weld on the compressor case.

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    I would agree to Parkers trend to rusting. They rust upside down when installed south of the the equator too. Not that it relates to manufacturers, But I'd also point out my newest hate - the growing trend of techs not bothering to wrap wet rags or do whatever to protect below a weld and cook the crap out of the paint on said items these days, a year or so later its rusted out. Flamming lazy punks. EG nice unburnt welds on your replacement bloke. Seen a reversing valve done by an apprentice the other day, cooked beyond survival... Stop fiddling with ya bloody phone and watch and learn next time for heavens sake.

    What the heck ever happended to copper accumulators anyway? Crimp off a bit of 2 & 5/8 and fill her up with brown tip and presto.

    Or... Just take enough gas out of her so she dun sweat back, prolong the suction accl corrosion time line, and then ignore cooking the paint off around your discharge. Perfect suc accl rusting preventative maintenance slash superheat tweaking procedure.

    As for lennox not installing them, my bet is on material savings and hoping to hell the system never floods back - over longevity design consideration.

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