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    Does this class description sound basic?

    I am 26 yrs old. I have been working as a Maryland HVAC apprentice for 6 months with little prior training. I found a course which is offered next month, it is one of six courses offered to graduate from the community college. The courses are offered offsite at there skilled trades center. For each course completed you earn a college certificate and at the end of the 6 courses you can earn the diploma. Here is the course description copy and pasted. I also will attach a link. I plan on taking a CFC prep course in 2 weeks at another school, at the end of the two weeks you take the CFC exam.

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    This course is the first level of the National Center for Construction Education and Research (NCCER) curriculum for HVAC/R students. Students will be introduced to career opportunities in the HVAC/R field, tools of the trade and trade mathematics. Other topics include copper and plastic piping practices, soldering and brazing and ferrous metal piping practices. This course is equivalent to the Fast Track technical trade program offered in the public schools. Textbook required at first class.

    http://www.pgcc.edu/Programs_and_Cou...eID=6442454779

    My problem: Having been on the job since April/May, I already know how to braze and solder, I have been on 25 installations. I know how to use the tools, and it sounds basic ,but I want the certifications and diploma for the future.

    Any thoughts?

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    I am sorry in this sounds offensive , but it is not i assure you.


    So let me get this straight!

    Since you already have like 150 days experience as a helper, you feel as if you no longer need to waste your time in class anymore?

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    I hope your joking because that is not what I am saying at all. Thanks for the reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sto2299001 View Post
    I hope your joking because that is not what I am saying at all. Thanks for the reply.
    It sure sounds like what you're saying.

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    I plan on being in the classroom for years to come, in this field you can spend a lifetime learning..I just thought this class sounded a tad bit rudimentary.. I know 150 days is not much ,but I have covered the initial basics outside the classroom. I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    It sure sounds like what you're saying.
    then maybe I should delete this post and rephrase the message I was trying to convey.

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    Here's a recipe for some success in this trade.

    Go to EVERY class that you can.
    Work EVERY shift and job you can.
    Listen to EVERY old, grumpy service guy you can. Heck, buy him a coffee and a donut. He might take pity on you and teach you something.

    NEVER, NEVER, EVER, think that you know everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sto2299001 View Post
    I plan on being in the classroom for years to come, in this field you can spend a lifetime learning..I just thought this class sounded a tad bit rudimentary.. I know 150 days is not much ,but I have covered the initial basics outside the classroom. I appreciate it.
    Well, that sounds better.

    Even the most rudimentary class can teach you something.

    Promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Here's a recipe for some success in this trade.

    Go to EVERY class that you can.
    Work EVERY shift and job you can.
    Listen to EVERY old, grumpy service guy you can. Heck, buy him a coffee and a donut. He might take pity on you and teach you something.

    NEVER, NEVER, EVER, think that you know everything.
    I WILL SELL WORK,GENERATE BUSINESS, GO GET NEW CUSTOMERS!
    YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND QUIT RUNNING YOUR MOUTH!

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    Not sure but sounds like a couple of old, grumpy service guys trying to get a coffee and donut here.

    But, they are very correct, every oppurtunity you can you should try to attend if you can. Even the most basic course has info that can be learned or relearned. Just remember there is more than one way to skin a cat. Some may be better than others and someone teaching such a basic class may very well have a better way that you had not seen or thought about. Not to mention you will meet other people in the trade and make contacts that you can carry through your carreer.

    So quit being a bone head and suck it up...
    Work smarter not harder.

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    So you can braze? Can you you re wire something from scratch of a wire diagram?
    I am young like you but have WAY more experience then you and credential then you and. I am going to George brown in October and taking a workshop at carrier tommorow. You never stop learning in this trade. Take as much training you can get it will make you a better tech

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    pgcc is not a very good choice, catonsville or nova if u want to get your moneys worth and creditable skills that result in better pay, troubleshooting, also sign up for 602 apprentiship

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    Quote Originally Posted by cw0682 View Post
    Not sure but sounds like a couple of old, grumpy service guys trying to get a coffee and donut here.

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