The virgin Jesus

[mcjo tech]

The Crusades? It's laughable that you even bring that subject up....

First of all, they took place centuries ago so if that's the best justification for Islamo-terrorism you can come up with hen this debate is over and you lost

Secondly, when you think of terrorism, what's the first word that comes to mind? Christianity? Doubtful, and you'd be lying if you said so. Environmentalists? Maybe, but also unlikely. How about Islam or Muslims? Now that would be a much, much more likely response, and more honest to boot.

Sure, every religious sect out there has probably committed crimes against humanity. But no other religious sect has gone as far as Islam when it comes to killing people - heck, Muslims probably even invented terrorism as a form of coercion.

My point is that other religions have also killed their fair share of people.

What is it about that statement that makes it so laughable?

In regards to your claim that the Muslim religion has killed more people then any other religions.

Got any proof about that?

Sure like to see your facts regarding this statement.

[Special Ed]

Nice story, printer, and it would be a perfect analogy, except for one thing: the Mexicans have never been nor will they ever be a perpetually persecuted race by almost every other race.

Every people needs a homeland, especially if they're hated as much as they are and even more especially if it seems as if the psychotic Arabs/Muslims want to wipe you out even more so than those fickle Europeans!

[Special Ed]

My point is that other religions have also killed their fair share of people.

What is it about that statement that makes it so laughable?

In regards to your claim that the Muslim religion has killed more people then any other religions.

Got any proof about that?

Sure like to see your facts regarding this statement.

You have your doubts? Why?

You're right, every religion has their bad times but Islam's just seems to keep going and going just like the Eveready bunny! Islam was begun by a man who encouraged his followers to convert or kill - their whole schtick is death! At its founding Islam killed many and they continued to kill many throughout the Middle Ages even after other religious sects finally discovered and acknowledged its futility. Muslims killed and conquered their way across the Middle East and into Europe, and they held onto their empire until WWI when finally the Ottomans were defeated (thank God!).

Now they're fractured as a religion but the only thing they can seem to agree on is not only the dissolution of the State of Israel but also the total and complete extermination of the Jewish people as a race! Many Muslim leaders have said as much all you have to do is read.

As far as the killing thing look that up yourself, I don't have the time or energy....

[mcjo tech]

.As far as the killing thing look that up yourself, I don't have the time or energy....

I didn't make the statement that the muslim religion has killed more people then any other religion.

You did.

I simply asked that if you are to make such a statement I would like to see the facts from which you drew your conclusion.

So I would say it is easy to make broad disparaging comments but much more difficult to prove or back them up.

[Special Ed]

So you want links to websites and all that?

All I know is you post a lot of crap on here too, and it's not too often I see you post links backing up your claims.

If I had absolutely nothing better to do and if I practically lived on this forum then, yes, I'd do it.

But I don't.

BTW, did you see any other part of my post? I ask, because you haven't responded to it and most of it can be independently verified.

[Tool-Slinger]

I didn't make the statement that the muslim religion has killed more people then any other religion.

You did.

I simply asked that if you are to make such a statement I would like to see the facts from which you drew your conclusion.

So I would say it is easy to make broad disparaging comments but much more difficult to prove or back them up.

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined

Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland

19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

You were saying?

[mcjo tech]

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined

Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland

19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

You were saying?

So this website is your so called Proof?

Alrighty then.

[mcjo tech]

So you want links to websites and all that?

All I know is you post a lot of crap on here too, and it's not too often I see you post links backing up your claims.

If I had absolutely nothing better to do and if I practically lived on this forum then, yes, I'd do it.


But I don't.

BTW, did you see any other part of my post? I ask, because you haven't responded to it and most of it can be independently verified.

So by your above statement you say what you posted was a lot of crap.

Your words not mine.

Once again, I did not make the original statement.

Also you did not respond in kind to all of my post.

I will agree that the extreemists of their religion are a terrible lot and deserve to be held accountable for the murders they commit.

I am just not sure that we need to cast out every Muslim just because of the extreemist part of their religion.

[Tool-Slinger]

So this website is your so called Proof?

Alrighty then.

You demanded backup. Upon presentation you ridicule it without explanation or reason. I am not sure why I bothered to comply.

[mcjo tech]

You demanded backup. Upon presentation you ridicule it without explanation or reason. I am not sure why I bothered to comply.

I did not ask you to provide a source.

You did not make the original statement.

Not sure why you felt compelled to jump into the middle of it.

If you have some other source that is more independant in its view I would be happy to consider it.

As a matter of fact I never said it is not true I only wanted to know what was used to draw such a conclusion.

[royc]

Well we know he died.

The "for us" part is only an opinion.

Can't be proven either way.

Thats why it is a belief.

As far as the Mussys killing people and Christians not killing then obviously some here must have never heard about the Crusades.

Or the war on Terror,

Roy

[royc]

More people have died in this century, than all centuries before it.

Around sixty million died during WWII alone.
Thirty Seven million died during WWI.



Now guess who were the ones that did most of the killing....Christians or Muslims ????


Christians have killed more Christians then any other religion.


Roy

[glennac]

Strongly disagree there roy. The countries that did most of the killing had non Christian governments Nazi Germany and atheist Soviet Union.

Christian faiths & churches had no part. Why do you spin the truth here? Thank you very much p