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    Did anybody see this on Neil Cavuto today about the impact of illegal immigration on U.S. jobs? The movie trailer here looks very interesting. Nobody will show this guy's film even though they say it is top quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    I understand that employers are in business to make money, while only hiring the best will maximize profit gains in the short term, what happens when there are not enough people categorized as the best? The economy goes to crap because there aren't enough people working and your profit dwindles....the person you turned away, now has no money and can't buy your product.

    Am I backwards on this?
    A guy can't employ 50 people if he only needs 25. That seems to be the point your are missing. There just isnt't a demand for labor.

    When there are less applicants for availible jobs, then an employer can't be so fussy.

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    Let also not forget all the manufacturing jobs that left our country for cheaper labor abroad. And customer service type jobs that are now fielded in places like India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    An employer who has an online application process doesn't know if the applicant has tattoos or is attractive or piercings etc. Kinda puts everyone on an even keel. With todays litigious society, would you want to hire a criminal? Right or wrong, it's a reality. I am unaware of people being discriminated against for smoking, although that will be an issue regarding insurability

    I think you're giving too much credit to today's unemployed. People are full of excuses.

    A government that says I'll pay you to not work, and this is perpetuated for generations is the problem. Why can't America's poor, be poor? That would motivate them to not be poor. Seriously, If americas poor had nowhere to live and nothing to eat and no internet access and no phones and whatever else my tax dollars pay for, you'd bet your bottom dollar they'd be working. New economies would form in poor neighborhoods and poor neighborhoods would no longer be poor. This was proven since the begining of time. You want something I have and I want something you have. Let's make a deal. Todays society says: Gimme that because I'm entitiled to it.
    I totally agree with you! The problem is, how do you get the genie back in the bottle after decades of section 8 housing, welfare, food stamps, child credit,etc. Many of these people are babies having babies, dropouts with zero skills and zero desire to improve their condition. If these "entitlements" are suddenly taken away, you will see a real "zombie apocalypse". Hungry people with hungry children will do whatever is necessary to feed themselves just as you or I would do in the same situation. So while I agree that it's a real problem, I don't know what a realistic solution is. Oh and by the way, EBT fraud is a huge problem in Florida. People are using the money in casinos and strip clubs!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    Requirements are rising? Half the posts in the jobs thread are: I don't want to quit smoking pot, can I have a job? or I've had 16 DUI's That shouldn't be a problem in getting hired, should it? I'd hope most employers requirements are a tad higher than the applicants expectations. My ol' lady's son is a perfect example of todays youth. 19 years old. Barely graduated high school, took one semester of community college, and refuses to take a job for minimum wage. He's too good for that. She enables him. Her daughter on the otherhand is "Hungry" She's been working since she was 16(now 23) because she likes nice things. Just paid off her car, going to college, complaining today about why the government takes all the money she has worked so hard for. Well, it's to take care of people like your brother.
    I have looked online for jobs for her son. Hundreds if not thousands of jobs are available. Why don't people want to work? Don't know. I wasn't raised that way. My own son works and goes to college. Although unhappy with both, he has a goal he wants to reach and its going to take education and money to get there. He complains but knows the prize at the end will be well worth the work.
    For myself, I did look for a job recently. I made a phone call to a former boss and was hired. I turned down the job because my current emploter made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
    Back to topic
    What's wrong with eating the best parts of the pie and leaving the scraps for the scavengers. If I was an employer, I would like competent people working for me. Whose to say what waste is? My guess is the pie owner.
    Don't forget broken familys' contribution to the problem.

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    And the liberal arts college that keeps pumping out interior designers or political science degrees...really? What job are you going to get? How many with a college degree are working at Denny's? Quite a few because they didn't look at the real world and persue a degree in a field that was actually hiring!

    Student, no IMHO the employers bear no blame for the unemployment rate. They hire as needed. They have to make profit to stay in business. The bigger problem is the lack of skilled people looking for jobs. Handouts from the government are too easy. Hell, Obama was running ads for food stamps!
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    So there is no company in this country that is understaffed?

    I find that hard to believe.

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    Is it better to be understaffed or higher unqualified that wind up costing you more money to correct things behind them?

    Maybe you should look to the other side of the coin there...you mean there are no employees out there that a company can't live without?
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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Did anybody see this on Neil Cavuto today about the impact of illegal immigration on U.S. jobs? The movie trailer here looks very interesting. Nobody will show this guy's film even though they say it is top quality.

    http://www.theycometoamerica.com/
    I just purchased it, I think all of us need to support this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    So there is no company in this country that is understaffed?

    I find that hard to believe.
    That is the right of the employer if they choose to work understaffed, and very prevalent in our industry. The employer owes the applicant nothing
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    I'm not saying the employee owes anyone anything....my I have already stated that these are rights of employers.

    The question...when companies choose to work understaffed, does this raise or lower unemployment?

    Companies not hiring leads to fewer people being employed...plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydra View Post
    I totally agree with you! The problem is, how do you get the genie back in the bottle after decades of section 8 housing, welfare, food stamps, child credit,etc. Many of these people are babies having babies, dropouts with zero skills and zero desire to improve their condition. If these "entitlements" are suddenly taken away, you will see a real "zombie apocalypse". Hungry people with hungry children will do whatever is necessary to feed themselves just as you or I would do in the same situation. So while I agree that it's a real problem, I don't know what a realistic solution is. Oh and by the way, EBT fraud is a huge problem in Florida. People are using the money in casinos and strip clubs!!!
    Send 'em al to Canada
    How about starting out with no more carte blanch at the grocery store. EBT good for bread, bologna, pb&j, milk, juice, and water. Nobody will starve unless its by chioce. Ween them off the teat one nipple at a time. Time limit for welfare benefits. Free job training. Teach them the construction trades and have them build more prisons. That way the non compliers will be able to keep their free housing. Absolutely no free cell phones or cable tv. Need to use a computer, go to the library. Section 8 housing for a time limit with the person receiving the benefit responsible for 1/2 the rent. Don't have an answer about the cash for babies program. You don't comply you're homeless. Illegals get zero benefits and immediatly deported once they're found out.
    There is no easy answer but something needs to be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    I'm not saying the employee owes anyone anything....my I have already stated that these are rights of employers.

    The question...when companies choose to work understaffed, does this raise or lower unemployment?

    Companies not hiring leads to fewer people being employed...plain and simple.
    Would you rather work for an understaffed employer and be "over employed" or work for an overstaffed employer and be "under employed"?
    Officially, Down for the count

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