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09-12-2012, 07:02 PM #14
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Keep dreaming.
Romney has little to no chance of becoming President.
Is this the "Apology" you all are talking about?
"I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens," Obama said. "While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants."
Unbelievable how you all twist things.
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09-12-2012, 07:03 PM #15
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09-12-2012, 07:46 PM #16
Just to be sure we are all on the same page, here is the original AM Obama statement:
I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.
I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.
On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in Tripoli, he has supported Libya’s transition to democracy. His legacy will endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this loss.
The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their work forward.
linked here: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/0...-libya-attack/
He has come out later in the day demanding justice and affirming freedom of speech I gather from other headlines. After some criticism.I draw all my schematics in crayon now. If they cannot always be correct, they can at least be colorful.
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09-12-2012, 08:13 PM #17
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Tool,
Thanks for the complete quote from the president.
We all are free to draw our own conclusions as to what he said or meant.
I myself do not see in this statement an apology from the administration of any kind.
I will admit I may be biased but even looking at it again with scrutiny I just don't see any real apology here.
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09-12-2012, 08:22 PM #18
He nailed it. You don't shoot first and aim later.
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09-12-2012, 09:28 PM #19
The time has long since come and gone for the US government, and western civilzation as a whole to drop the multi-cultural politically correct agenda and stop handling islam with white gloves. There's no separating islam from violence, and there is no such thing as "radical islam". It's all just islam, period. We can't have it both ways. We can't continue to try and appeal to the delicate sensibilities of muslims and maintain any kind of insulation from the threat of terrorism promoted by their religion. A line in the sand must be drawn, and someone has to speak up and say "We unequivocally, unapologetically, and wholly reject you"
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09-12-2012, 09:35 PM #20
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09-12-2012, 09:35 PM #21
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09-12-2012, 09:45 PM #22
These people won't stop until every non-muslim has been either converted or beheaded. It's time to go all-in. Time to write off the losses and cut ties with every one of these two-faced nations that accepts the check with one hand and holds the knife behind their back with the other.
Truth is still truth, even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it.
"It's called the american dream because you have to be asleep to believe it" -George Carlin
"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" -Edward R. Murrow
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09-12-2012, 09:47 PM #23
Sure, there is no direct apology anywhere. I think the lack of any demand and/or commitment for justice or respect for the human right of freedom of speech/expression was really wimpy.
I am also thinking most everyone is annoyed by this: While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others,. That sounds apologetic. For starters, it is dishonest,....National Endowment for the Arts comes to mind with Jesus insults. And the second amendment trumps any denigration of religion. We americans know that, so the statement sounds aimed at muslims abroad. I think it was too, as part of bad policy and not some conspiracy. This has not been a Winston Churchill moment for Obama.
I would sum that statement up in points:
1- We abhor violence. [everybody says that]
2- We abhor religious denigration. [That is not really true]
3- We have no plans or intention to do anything about either of the two former items.
The Obama statement was almost a mirror image of the Cairo embassy statement. It might have been better to not have made any statement at all beyond,"We are aware of the situation and taking measures as deemed prudent" and left it at that.I draw all my schematics in crayon now. If they cannot always be correct, they can at least be colorful.
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09-12-2012, 10:21 PM #24
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09-12-2012, 10:26 PM #25
Did the people who made the film have their blood shed? No because the chickens#^t muslims go for an easy target. You don't murder people just because you didn't like a movie.
It might get loud!
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09-12-2012, 10:27 PM #26
Here is the statement from the Cairo embassy: The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims - as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.
In the context of an unprovoked attack on not only our citizens, but our embassy. Not only but they killed out Ambassador, staff and a US Marine. That is an overt act of war. You don't respond with worring about the lame excuse for the attacks, which so far appear to be false as this was a premeditated coordinated attack. Any responses on such an attack must be approved through the US State Dept. That means Obama. They are under the gun to respond quickly with firmness and resolve--not starting off worrying about offending anyone. Those posts from Obama himself don't really count because it was HIS agency that responded inappropriately for him our of Cairo that matters. Sure his response sounds a little more firm once the firestorm started and he saw his error and the problem with sitting back. His people also fired the first shot at Romney--not vice versa . Should Romney have responded? Absolutely! If Obama had responded properly, he could have and I think would have backed him but Obama didn't.
What still is not being discussed by the coverup media is why were they in an indefensible location to start with and why werent' they adequately guarded? I mean, of all the hell holes in the world, where is there the highest probability for a spark in a tinderbox? These places recently underwent a violent militant coup with radical Muslim fundamentalist terrorist who have stated we are their enemy. What did we need to realize they meant us harm--attacking our embassies? Are you kidding me? After all the Bush bashing from 9-11 somebody tell me how these people were left out in Ft. Apache essentially unguarded? The answer is quite obvious-they were bait left out there on purpose and it worked. Obama needed a last minute crisis to stave off defeat in the election but he already blew it.
This deserves a Congressional investigation as to why these people were let out in one of the most volatile, dangerous places on earth surrounded by enemies with no viable defense or extraction. Why? Sending Marines now is closing the door with horse out of the barn.
BTW, the Libyan security forces ratted them out on their new secure location. That is aiding and abetting an enemy in attacking the US.Keep the fire inside the fireplace.



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