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  1. #14
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    I have seen these on Walgreens in my area too. They do work, but they can also let rain water in if not sealed properly.

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    Cost Guards don't hold any water in the off cycle. They are less likely to grow slime. Walgreens is very big on preventative maintenance, we had quarterly P.M's & filters on 30 or 60 days (they still do). The chain has enough identical stores we tested
    them, with and without. With them, fewer clogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny42 View Post
    Cost Guards don't hold any water in the off cycle. They are less likely to grow slime. Walgreens is very big on preventative maintenance, we had quarterly P.M's & filters on 30 or 60 days (they still do). The chain has enough identical stores we tested
    them, with and without. With them, fewer clogs.
    Once again...

    With PROPER maintenance, a water trap will have ZERO clogs.
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    Sure thing... but they DO clog up. Cost Guards DO work better than wet traps./

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny42 View Post
    Sure thing... but they DO clog up. Cost Guards DO work better than wet traps./
    No, my point is that properly maintained, water traps will NOT clog up.

    The fact is that companies are too cheap to properly maintain their equipment, so now, they want a trap that does not need as much maintenance. Hence, they will miss other things that the tech would find during maintenance visits, costing more money in the long run. They THINK they save money, but they are unaware of the real cost that crops up in things they don't relate to maintenance visits, like a compressor replacement that is needed because some condition went unnoticed, because there was no tech there to see it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Once again...

    With PROPER maintenance, a water trap will have ZERO clogs.
    I agree but the problem I have is an account that once or twice a year someone doing maintenance forgets to prime a trap then I get a middle of the night call due to major water leak

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    To many guys sadly fail to dump and prime traps on pms. Can't tell you how many things get over looked ... I shake my head over it.

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    Yes. The bottom line is this: it is often the account itself that is the source of the problems.

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    I had our mechanical project engineer ask me about this product last week week, had me watch the video....

    Apparently they per-configure this trap at the factory to meet the needs of the make and model. I like it and see where it would work well, but question the cost of. Should this "not" be spec'ed, I had to ask why the additional cost?

    The product makes total sense, I just have to question as the to how its paid for tis all

    JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Worthington View Post
    I had our mechanical project engineer ask me about this product last week week, had me watch the video....

    Apparently they per-configure this trap at the factory to meet the needs of the make and model. I like it and see where it would work well, but question the cost of. Should this "not" be spec'ed, I had to ask why the additional cost?

    The product makes total sense, I just have to question as the to how its paid for tis all

    JMO
    I wonder what it costs to have the device "pre-configured" for a given model unit, and how much that cost would vary from brand to brand, and how interesting it would be to see which access gets blocked by the extra piping...

    I can see it fitting a Carrier 10 ton pretty easily. Not so easy for an L series...
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I wonder what it costs to have the device "pre-configured" for a given model unit, and how much that cost would vary from brand to brand, and how interesting it would be to see which access gets blocked by the extra piping...

    I can see it fitting a Carrier 10 ton pretty easily. Not so easy for an L series...
    Did I mention my concern of the cost? Biding apples and oranges could be an issue, unless the pineapples are pointed out JMO

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    I did a lot of walgreens roof replacements last year for the company that I work for. We had to install these on all the new units, and if the old units had them we had to reuse them. They're manufactured in Tyler, Tx though. I had to go out to the warehouse there to pick up all the orders. One thing I liked about them is that since they don't hold water, they will not crack from water freezing in the winter time. Not that it happens that often in Texas, but less of a chance still.

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    They cost $76. Not much money against a bunch of wet product below the unit. National accounts get a discount so its
    even better.

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