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    Why do blacks vote 90% or more for the democrat?

    If this is a taboo subject, I encourage the moderators to delete my post. But, my opinion of the black community is that they are a large church going population. So then why would they (especially the black Christian community) vote 90% for a guy who is pro gay, pro abortion, pro same-sex marriage, and now anti-God and anti-Israel? Why? Don't their convictions mean anything to them when they go to vote?

    What are blacks voting for when they vote 90% democrat? Are they voting for the continuance of affirmative action? Is that what it is about you think? I guess that trumps your Christian convictions? What do you think?

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    One thing that I have noticed is most black people stand behind each other because of their race alone. THeir beliefs and common sense come second. Look at that Zimmerman case.

    Now if only the rest of the country would stand up together we would be onto something.
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    Blacks have a vested interest in the democratic party .......


    Cool - The rest of your post was out of line.

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    This is not a taboo subject, it's actually a valid question. But I would ask all to keep their replies on-topic and stay away from any racial slurs or hate speech.

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    I've got a few reasons to consider.

    1) Blacks are always predominately democratic so they are more likely to support any Dem, black or white.

    2) Probably any ethnic candidate, whether it black, jew, asian, etc would get support from their own kind in large numbers. Especially for a first time chance to be Prez.

    3) And I think one of the biggest reasons is blacks used to be slaves in this country and are probably more pumped than anyone else could be to actually go from being lowly slaves to being President. I'm thinking that motivates them big time to vote Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newoldtech View Post
    I've got a few reasons to consider.

    1) Blacks are always predominately democratic so they are more likely to support any Dem, black or white.

    2) Probably any ethnic candidate, whether it black, jew, asian, etc would get support from their own kind in large numbers. Especially for a first time chance to be Prez.

    3) And I think one of the biggest reasons is blacks used to be slaves in this country and are probably more pumped than anyone else could be to actually go from being lowly slaves to being President. I'm thinking that motivates them big time to vote Obama.
    I agree with all of that. But it still fails to answer the OP question. I can understand black people voting for Obama in record numbers, but what an idiot like Al Gore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    I agree with all of that. But it still fails to answer the OP question. I can understand black people voting for Obama in record numbers, but what an idiot like Al Gore?

    http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele...l#.UEt0DqPWp-w

    Gore got just as much support as Oboma.
    Yea, I focused more on the Obama part of it, being that the big election is imminent.

    But for the bigger reasons, I'll go with this. Blacks, who are statistically more likely to fall more into a lower income bracket probably feel like they have a better chance of getting more freebies from dems than they would from pubs. In the end most people will vote their pocketbook.

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    Blacks tend to be poorer, and Democrats appeal to more to the Immediate, base needs of the poor- food, shelter, medicine; whereas Republicans tend to promote opportunity to succeed on your own and generally occupy the moral high ground on religious topics (abortion, religion in the public square, prayer).

    While most blacks tend to agree ideologically with conservatives on social issues, you can't eat them or live in them. Republicans tend to be tougher on crime, and statistically blacks are far more likely to themselves be or have family members under some type of criminal sanction.

    Democrats also promote the idea that blacks are owed something, and they are the party willing to make good on that debt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete838 View Post
    Blacks tend to be poorer, and Democrats appeal to more to the Immediate, base needs of the poor- food, shelter, medicine; whereas Republicans tend to promote opportunity to succeed on your own and generally occupy the moral high ground on religious topics (abortion, religion in the public square, prayer).

    While most blacks tend to agree ideologically with conservatives on social issues, you can't eat them or live in them. Republicans tend to be tougher on crime, and statistically blacks are far more likely to themselves be or have family members under some type of criminal sanction.

    Democrats also promote the idea that blacks are owed something, and they are the party willing to make good on that debt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete838 View Post
    Democrats also promote the idea that blacks are owed something, and they are the party willing to make good on that debt.
    That's absolutely correct. Now let's get down to the bare bones. Are blacks owed something? The racial discrimination against them in the 1950's and 1960's was very real and hurtful. I'm not trying to make light of it. Blacks tried to get jobs on the assembly line at Kodak in Rochester, NY, and they just wouldn't let blacks have those jobs because they had black skin. OK, this is very wrong. But, now, 50 years later are blacks still owed something? I would say no. Look at the results. The out-of-wedlock birth rate for blacks is 72%. Their crime rate is 8.3 times higher than white crime as a percentage of respective poulations. Their high school drop out rate approaches 50%, but it is only 10% for whites. So, being owed something hasn't worked out very well in the black community from my point of view. One could argue that the black people are still on their white democratic slave masters plantation in Washington, DC. The democrats have bought their vote with our tax money. The democrats are masters at this. I just wish that somehow we could get beyond this thing of blacks being entitled because of something that happened 50 years ago. But scamball democrats will never let this go. They will invent racism even if there is none. They actually want there to be racism. This way they can justify the entitlement part towards the black community.

    I wonder what it will finally take in this country for no group of people to be owed anything? I wonder if a financial collapse would even do it? But maybe some of you would say the black community is STILL owed something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    That's absolutely correct. Now let's get down to the bare bones. Are blacks owed something? The racial discrimination against them in the 1950's and 1960's was very real and hurtful. I'm not trying to make light of it. Blacks tried to get jobs on the assembly line at Kodak in Rochester, NY, and they just wouldn't let blacks have those jobs because they had black skin. OK, this is very wrong. But, now, 50 years later are blacks still owed something? I would say no.
    Perhaps Eastman Kodak owes something to the individuals that were discriminated against. I, as a citizen and taxpayer that has never owned a slave, never refused to hire based on skin color, owe nothing to they as a group of 36 million + black citizens that are alive now. The entire idea of reparations legislation is a vote buying scheme. I get it. Life is tough as a black person. Sorry, but that isn't my problem. Many, many, many employers preferentially hire blacks over equally or even far more qualified whites for reasons of political correctness. The injustices of the pre-civil rights era have been over corrected; the pendulum has swung and they have opportunities I couldn't dream of in fields like government, military, academia, and manufacturing.

    Something that seems to be missing or taboo from the discussion on race is each race's inherent talents and abilities. I read a paper or article one time about that very subject, comparing race horses with plow horses. A race horse will never pull as well as a plow horse, and a plow horse will never run as fast as a race horse. Blacks tend to do very well in very physical activities, and as a result occupy a place in professional sports far greater than their percentage of the general population, but are underrepresented in technical fields. Asians tend to do better in highly technical fields like medicine and engineering, and as a result there are a far higher percentage of Asian doctors engineers than their share of their population, but are under-represented in professional sports. Just because someone isn't suited to a certain station in life doesn't mean that society is racist. Do you want an equal opportunity hire cutting on your wife or kid in an OR? Or programming the computer that controls the subway trains in a big city? How many of us know a highly capable black HVAC technician? Not that they don't exist, but, by and large, this isn't a field they gravitate to. Not because "the man" is keeping them down, most of them just don't get it and don't succeed at it. Is it racist that more blacks aren't doctors, but not racist that more Asians aren't athletes?


    I wonder what it will finally take in this country for no group of people to be owed anything? I wonder if a financial collapse would even do it? But maybe some of you would say the black community is STILL owed something?
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    If you ask them, many will say that they don't like the idea of giving more money to the rich man and adding more laws to the poor man. Which both are things conservatives like to do. Does it happen under democrats too? Sure....but it's not as obvious, and as widespread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    If you ask them, many will say that they don't like the idea of giving more money to the rich man and adding more laws to the poor man. Which both are things conservatives like to do. Does it happen under democrats too? Sure....but it's not as obvious, and as widespread.
    Except it is mostly a big lie. I'm not rich. Far from it. But I find it incredibly dishonest to say that government seizing 30% of someone's earnings in taxes instead instead of 40% is somehow "giving" the rich 10% more money or somehow depriving the poor of that 10% that is somehow rightfully theirs.

    African nations are notorious for being run by despots that promise the people everything in benefits and steal everything from them. Quite simply, they vote for whoever promises them the most stuff, regardless of whether the politician can possibly provide it. Heavy on promises, light on results, but always more promises.


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