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  1. #14
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    It sounds like it needs a ptrap

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    It sounds like it needs a ptrap
    And blower door assisted air sealing of the attic.
    Which makes more sense to you?
    CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
    ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%

    DO THE NUMBERS! Step on a HOMESCALE.
    What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!

    Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to BPI.org, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.

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    do you smell it when the hvac is running?
    or all the time?
    still asking...
    The cure of the part should not be attempted without the cure of the whole. ~Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedkidd View Post
    And blower door assisted air sealing of the attic.
    X2 and ductwork

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    Quote Originally Posted by energy_rater_La View Post
    do you smell it when the hvac is running?
    or all the time?
    still asking...
    Sorry i missed your question.
    Only when the hvac is running and only when temperature outside start to get really hot, 95 and above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    X2 and ductwork
    Mmhh what is that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    It sounds like it needs a ptrap
    Ptrap ? Is it dangerous :-)

  8. #21
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    hvac drain has p-trap.

    X2 means that the person who posted it agrees with post above.
    x3 means I agree also.

    ok, so when the unit runs it pulls attic air, temps, dust, and smell of attic into house.

    you need to improve the air barrier between living space and attic.
    when the hvac system runs it pulls air from attic into living space.
    thru ducts that aren't well sealed and any openings between living and
    attic spaces.
    things like recessed lights, hvac supply boxes that aren't sealed where
    the penetrate into living space, stove vents, bath vents, and openings
    around fireplaces are just a few of the areas that leak.

    thus the suggestions for duct testing (to find duct leaks to be sealed)
    and blower door test (to find house leakage to be sealed).

    check with Resnet, BPI for independent rating or audit, by certified
    person who works for you.
    or utilities, who pay in part person who does the testing.
    you will have to keep track of leakage sites, of ducts
    and house, and request duct testing in most areas.


    fyi independents can lead you to higher savings, whereas utility
    companies have a limit as to how much they want to reduce
    their profit.
    best of luck
    The cure of the part should not be attempted without the cure of the whole. ~Plato

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    Let's dig into that last bit. Is that hypothesis, or something you know for certain?

    Is it not wanting deep savings, or lack of vision, or "low hanging fruit/prescriptive measures" mentality that doesn't recognize the cost of getting in the door, and once in putting no value on the missed opportunity to be comprehensive, or some other issue not mentioned?

    God, I'd love to know the answer.
    Which makes more sense to you?
    CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
    ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%

    DO THE NUMBERS! Step on a HOMESCALE.
    What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!

    Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to BPI.org, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.

  10. #23
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    last part about utility companies?
    sadly it is something I know.

    I'd rather not get into it in this thread, but
    if you'd like to discuss it more, start a new
    thread in a more appropriate forum.
    just pm me where you want to discuss this.
    or we can just pm.
    The cure of the part should not be attempted without the cure of the whole. ~Plato

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    I was hoping it was ignorance or incompetence. Intentional is going to be much more difficult to combat. How can these guys consider themselves patriotic citizens, harm to fellow Americans and impediment to energy independence could be considered willful.

    Lets start a thread on the building science forum.
    Which makes more sense to you?
    CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
    ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%

    DO THE NUMBERS! Step on a HOMESCALE.
    What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!

    Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to BPI.org, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.

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