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09-04-2012, 02:06 PM #1
Who's work is it?
Hey guys & gals. Not trying to start a fight but this has always been an argument on job sites. Wiring of WI freezers. I see it alot, especially on schools. Electricians claim its their work and hit the floor kicking and screaming if a fitter or sheetmetal worker starts to do it. Then when we let them have it or if they already have it in their SOW they can't figure out how to wire it and we end up doing it anyway. Question: should they claim work they cannot do?
09-04-2012, 02:23 PM #2
They like it because they get paid to watch you do it.
09-04-2012, 03:17 PM #3Professional Member*
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back charge them for fixing their F/U, then inform them it's coming out of their wages
their arrogant attitudes won't let them acknowledge they don't have a friggen' clue what they are doing.It`s better to be silent and thought the fool; than speak and remove all doubt.
09-04-2012, 05:21 PM #4
I normally quote doing the control wiring. If the electrician ends up doing it, I will give him the number and gauge of the conductors and tell him I will do the termination.http://acfwb.com/
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09-04-2012, 05:59 PM #5
09-04-2012, 06:08 PM #6
That's about all there good for is pulling wire. Some are smart though, our sparky used to wire those up now we didn't do work like that anymore.
09-04-2012, 08:46 PM #7Professional Member
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I really enjoyed watching a panel full of soft starts,controls and transformers go up once ....
Pull the wire and let a tech land it or let the tech assist...and not be a jackass about it ...
I came across a voyager once that a couple of sparkies fixed,,,ripped all the controls out and wired up a conventional stat to it ...made me sad...
They couldn't figure it out so they killed it ...
Just because it has wires doesn't make you automatically qualified to touch it.mikeacman
09-04-2012, 09:54 PM #8
Sparky does the work. We fix it.Local 597 Service Fitter
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It was working when I left...
09-04-2012, 09:58 PM #9
09-04-2012, 10:15 PM #10Professional Member
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tell him to wire it from the panel to where it should be and specify that they pull the power wire from the panel to unit only, makes the panel connection and leave the breaker off/lock it off. and you do the final connection on the unit and any control wiring required. they'll be happy that way.Parts Changer Extraordinaire
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09-04-2012, 10:17 PM #11
Depends on the electrician. Ive seen a few who had obviously wired many walk ins. Ive seen more who didnt have a clue.
09-04-2012, 10:22 PM #12
Simply hide the schematic until they come sniffling and saying please help us!
09-04-2012, 10:33 PM #13
I think I'd like to tell them to bite me. Get the wires to my boxes and let us do the rest. I get really tired of coming in after the fact and separating the lights, door heat, and evaporator fans off one circuit. I will not work in the dark!!! Is it that hard to wire me in a disconnect or a switch?!