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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post
    When has a corporation ever had to balance their books? They can run for decades bleeding money, exactly like government, and if they come even close to failing, government provides them with ways of staying afloat. I'm not even talking about the recent bail outs. Just look at how the corporate bankruptcy work out. They literally either make money, or get rescued by the government. These are the big internationals mind you, not the small local ones.

    You need proof that the gop is the same as the dems? Well lets start with Obama continuing nearly everyone of Bush's policies. You know all that stuff people complain about, it is a continuation of what began under bush, which to be honest started well before he was in office. Democrats and Republicans, both do the exact same thing. Pander to a minority, then do whatever the hell they want. Can you really tell me they don't. Can you actually point to something that will actually change if Romney is elected.
    Not enough time to address this... however you need to take a larger look.

    Point #1: Solyndra was a corporation... one that started in the favor of the current govt... they LET THEM DIE!!! So here alone, we have proof that not 'all' corps win.

    Point #2: AT&T almost died around the turn of the century, SW Bell bought the name at the end. What we see today is NOT the same co... and the govt let them die.

    Point #3: Lehman Bros, one of the powerhouses on Wall St (yet not one of the good-ol-boys who kissed up with the other players), was used as the sacrificial lamb in 2008... ALL the other big banks and investment houses were propped up. Might want to study J P Morgan and Goldman Sachs... they are the two who are literally in bed and screwing (both ways) with the govt... at OUR (read that tax payers) expense.

    Not enough time... however your comment is wrong. This opinion spoken by someone that has been trading the markets continually for close to 2 decades, actually almost 3 if one includes before a long break. Perhaps that person ahs doen enough research to know?

    Off to earn some HONEST $$$... something BHO does not even know how to do, much less have any experience doing.
    OTOH: Mitten has been very successful doing just that... earning honest $$$ by WORKING for it.
    So which one do you want in the WH? A freeloader or a worker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post
    When has a corporation ever had to balance their books? They can run for decades bleeding money, exactly like government, and if they come even close to failing, government provides them with ways of staying afloat. I'm not even talking about the recent bail outs. Just look at how the corporate bankruptcy work out. They literally either make money, or get rescued by the government. These are the big internationals mind you, not the small local ones.

    You need proof that the gop is the same as the dems? Well lets start with Obama continuing nearly everyone of Bush's policies. You know all that stuff people complain about, it is a continuation of what began under bush, which to be honest started well before he was in office. Democrats and Republicans, both do the exact same thing. Pander to a minority, then do whatever the hell they want. Can you really tell me they don't. Can you actually point to something that will actually change if Romney is elected.
    To reference the second paragraph: A radical change in short term of ANY policies... would cause too large a ripple in the economy... thus causing a recession. Business folks know that... which is the reason non-business wise folks (ones who do not understand that) should not be voting (too immature to understand the damage they would do).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post
    Really? What products has he brought to market? What has his great business plan been. Oh its more of the same Big Box retail stores that everyone hates. He's a business man that exploits laws and regulations to drive small businesses that pay good money out of business to be replace by stores like sports authority. The only reason his business have succeeded is because they had the capital to push past regulations that kill small sporting goods stores and the like.

    Y'all keep on acting like the retail minimum wage jobs that where created makes up for the manufacturing jobs that he destroyed, and apparently y'all can't even tell that the only reason places like sports authority flourish, is the same reason why Wal-Mart does, Their size allows them to comply with the government regulations that drive their small local companies out of business. Oh wait, let me guess, y'all still think that big corporations hate regulations.
    Will address this when I have time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    To reference the second paragraph: A radical change in short term of ANY policies... would cause too large a ripple in the economy... thus causing a recession. Business folks know that... which is the reason non-business wise folks (ones who do not understand that) should not be voting (too immature to understand the damage they would do).
    The problem I get with business people and liberal school teachers and kid, are the same problem. I'm right and the other guy is stupid. The government should not be involved with the economy in the first place, that right there eliminates the need for business folks to vote

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    Governor libertarian whack job in California is now going to allow hundreds of thousands of illegals to get driver's licenses. So, they will have their current photo I.D. ready to display when they go to vote. How is having I.D. going to stop these illegals from voting? But, CA is already lost to the socialist, and it isn't coming back. You think the state of TX will stay red when illegal Mexicans can get driver's licenses in this state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Governor libertarian whack job in California is now going to allow hundreds of thousands of illegals to get driver's licenses. So, they will have their current photo I.D. ready to display when they go to vote. How is having I.D. going to stop these illegals from voting? But, CA is already lost to the socialist, and it isn't coming back. You think the state of TX will stay red when illegal Mexicans can get driver's licenses in this state?
    Some said Texas would be blue this election... has not happened yet.

    Lets see what this Ted Cruz guy turns out to be like (Hispanic guy that got the GOP nomination for Senator from Texas). If he turns out to be as good as Marco Rubio and/or Alan West... and the state folks like him... well the left's idea of turning Texas blue might be a ways off.
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    Why the dimbats dont want voter id.....

    Because then only the republicans can get away with voter fraud shenanigans.....

    “I’m actually trying to register people for a particular party,” the girl tells a woman in the video, which has been viewed more than 417,000 times. Because we’re out here in support of Romney, actually.”

    Strategic Allied Consulting was hired to do voter registration drives in Florida, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina and Nevada, and had been planning get-out-the-vote drives in Ohio and Wisconsin, Sproul told the Los Angeles Times Thursday.

    Reports from the Federal Election Commission show that Sproul’s other company, Lincoln Strategy Group, has been paid more than $80,000 by the Romney campaign to help register voters between November 2011 and March 2012 during the GOP primary season.

    Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity’s sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

    The irony......the irony.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Why the dimbats dont want voter id.....

    Because then only the republicans can get away with voter fraud shenanigans.....

    “I’m actually trying to register people for a particular party,” the girl tells a woman in the video, which has been viewed more than 417,000 times. Because we’re out here in support of Romney, actually.”

    Strategic Allied Consulting was hired to do voter registration drives in Florida, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina and Nevada, and had been planning get-out-the-vote drives in Ohio and Wisconsin, Sproul told the Los Angeles Times Thursday.

    Reports from the Federal Election Commission show that Sproul’s other company, Lincoln Strategy Group, has been paid more than $80,000 by the Romney campaign to help register voters between November 2011 and March 2012 during the GOP primary season.

    Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity’s sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

    The irony......the irony.............

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    How much are the leftest Democrats paying you to spread this manure corny or you just doing it to get back at your conservative Christian neighbors there? Inquiring minds want to know. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    How much are the leftest Democrats paying you to spread this manure corny or you just doing it to get back at your conservative Christian neighbors there? Inquiring minds want to know. Thank you, thank you very much
    I just find it funny that republicans have been screaming about voter fraud and other voter shenanigans and now it comes to light that they hired someone with a previous history of voter shenanigans and had him form a newly named division so people wouldnt make the connection to his old company.....and now he is caught again......

    Signing up dead people.... throwing voter registrations in the trash........lol

    Its ok if WE do it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    How much are the leftest Democrats paying you to spread this manure corny or you just doing it to get back at your conservative Christian neighbors there? Inquiring minds want to know. Thank you, thank you very much
    Sounds alot like Acorn. This group of "canvassers" had to change their name before the Repubes would hire them AGAIN. This is obviously not manure - it seems to be a real problem since the RNC dropped them this close to the election. Let me google that for you.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Strategic+Allied+Consulting

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    “There is a sad irony that the same people who demand restrictive voter ID and registration laws to prevent fraud they cannot find would hire a man known to engage in questionable voter registration practices and then fall silent when he is suspected of repeating those unacceptable practices."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post
    That's because their is no difference between public, and private sector unions. They are all large, political, corrupt organizations, no different then corporations, or governments. Do you really think people that work for the government are some how different then you?
    You don't really pay attention to what is being discussed, do you? Yes, organized labor unions are pretty much the same whether they are leeching off of private companies or government organizations. The difference is that the public sector is 100% payed for by taxpayers who do not deserve to be ripped off by unions and politicians who are using taxpayer money to pay not only for the votes of the private sector workers, but for the immense cost of organized labor.

    There is no rationale for government workers to allegedly need organized labor unions protecting them since government workers work for very entity that controls labor.

    In many ways, government workers are very different because they rely on, and so vote in favor of Socialist bills that support giving them a little more cash for them to support union bosses and politicians much larger payroll and benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    To reference the second paragraph: A radical change in short term of ANY policies... would cause too large a ripple in the economy... thus causing a recession. Business folks know that... which is the reason non-business wise folks (ones who do not understand that) should not be voting (too immature to understand the damage they would do).
    You can use the same argument to defend Obama. He just continued on with Bush's bailout to keep the economy going. To not do so would cause a big ripple in the economy, not to mention recession. Business folks know that and they only put their money back in the markets when more money was printed (since you can not get blood from a stone).

    As far as voting, your election process tells the tale. How much does each presidential candidate spend to convince you he is worthy? As compared to Merry Old England, you have to ask yourself who's pocket are your politicians in?

    New figures just released by the Center for Responsive Politics, an independent research group which tracks money in politics, estimate the total cost of November's elections (for the presidency, House of Representatives and Senate) will come in at $5.8bn (£3.7bn) - more than the entire annual GDP of Malawi, and up 7% on 2008.

    It makes UK election spending look microscopic by comparison. A total of £31m ($49m) was spent by all parties in the last general election in the UK two years ago - making US spending 120 times as much, and 23 times as much per person.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19052054
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