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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Lets face it folks..... its isnt going to take dead voters or illegal voters or people running to the back of the line voting all day to defeat Romney....

    He has defeated himself.....

    Americans should have selected a candidate who could at least pretend to care about all americans..... Ron Paul...Herman Cain..... both these men are bats*it crazy and just plain stupid.... well Cain is stupid.... Ron Paul isnt really stupid....but he is crazy.....

    Anyhow... at least Paul or Cain could have at least put on a good front about caring what happens to all america.....
    Sounds like you would prefer a communist for President there corny. Care to explain yourself. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Lets face it folks..... its isnt going to take dead voters or illegal voters or people running to the back of the line voting all day to defeat Romney....

    He has defeated himself.....

    Americans should have selected a candidate who could at least pretend to care about all americans..... Ron Paul...Herman Cain..... both these men are bats*it crazy and just plain stupid.... well Cain is stupid.... Ron Paul isnt really stupid....but he is crazy.....

    Anyhow... at least Paul or Cain could have at least put on a good front about caring what happens to all america.....
    Shoulda, coulda, woulda....blah, blah, blah.....

    You are very wrong about the ability of Romney being able to become our next president. It is exactly this leftist type of thinking that you are portraying that could cause Obama to stay in office though.

    Just as the leftist media prematurely called the Florida vote in favor of Al Gore so that W Bush supporters would not bother to come out and vote, the leftists are claiming that Romney cannot win this election in order to discourage Americans who do not want Obama to stay in office from bothering to vote for Romney. It is a leftist head game ploy that is not going to work this time.

    While Romney was far from my personal choice as the Republican candidate to oppose Obama, I don't believe for one moment that the amount of support between the two candidates is as close as the media is making it out to be. I believe that there are more past Obama supporters who are not going to cast their votes for him this time around then the media is admitting to. These deceived and misguided Americans may not be upset enough to vote for Romney, but I believe many of them are not going to cast another vote for Obama either.

    On the other side of this coin, I believe that many, like myself, who would not have picked Romney for the Republican candidate will still cast our votes for Romney over Obama. Obama has had four years to make good on his promises and instead has just made things much, much worse. No matter what, we need to get Obama out of office just to stop him from continuing to make things worse for Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Yep, I opened a bank account with an EXPIRED WA state driver's license--same scenario with food stamps. But, that isn't good enough for the republicans. They want an expensive up-to-date I.D. that is going to cost me a lot of time and money to get.

    My favorite Who song was always "Slip Kid". I'll bet you don't even remember this album:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xjr9v5ehk
    Sounds like you have plenty of time and money should not be a problem since we are feeding you, food tamps really; man go back to WA we do not need people like you in Texas. Seriously how can you not have gainful employment in Texas, hell there are jobs galore for seaman around Houston, Beaumont and all over Louisiana. Sounds like you are just making excuses for being lazy there boyo.

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    Not really a Who fan anymore ths would be more my taste.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbU4zwhOGVg

    You do know BG did more for race relations and bringing blacks into mainstream society than almost anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Yep, I opened a bank account with an EXPIRED WA state driver's license--same scenario with food stamps. But, that isn't good enough for the republicans. They want an expensive up-to-date I.D. that is going to cost me a lot of time and money to get.

    My favorite Who song was always "Slip Kid". I'll bet you don't even remember this album:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xjr9v5ehk
    Why do you liberals make such a big todo out of the simpliest things when you don't agree with them? You're like whiney little girls. What is so expensive about the ID's that Republicans are asking for? Why is it such a big deal for you to obtain ID that you should have to be legal in the first place? You are whining about it being difficult for someone who is not abiding by U.S. laws to be able to vote for U.S. lawmakers. Just how does that make any sense to anyone?

    And why in the world would you think that those of us from the generation when The Who were most popular would not remember their music?
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    In Tennessee, a new law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls explicitly excludes student IDs.

    In Wisconsin, college students are newly disallowed from using university-provided housing lists or corroboration from other students to verify their residence.

    Florida's reduction in early voting days is expected to reduce the number of young and first-time voters there.

    And Pennsylvania's voter identification bill, still on the books for now, disallows many student IDs and non-Pennsylvania driver's licenses, which means out-of-state students may be turned away at the polls.

    In 2008, youth voter turnout was higher that it had been since Vietnam, and overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. This time around, the GOP isn't counting solely on disillusionment to keep the student vote down.

    In the last two years, Republican-controlled state legislatures have passed dozens of bills that erect new barriers to voting, all targeting Democratic-leaning groups, many specifically aimed at students. The GOP's stated rationale is to fight voter fraud. But voter fraud -- and especially in-person fraud which many of these measures address -- is essentially nonexistent.

    None of the new laws blocks student voting outright -- although in New Hampshire, Republican lawmakers almost passed a bill that would have banned out-of-state students from casting a ballot. (The leader of the State House, Bill O'Brien, was caught on tape explaining how the move was necessary to stop students from "basically doing what I did when I was a kid: voting as a liberal.")

    Old folks and young folks.....and the poor....... thats who voter id is meant to suppress........lol

    Of course the kids and the oldsters know this.....and while the oldsters still cant do anything about it......Im sure those kids out there can....and will.
    One things for _______ sure, ________ rock didnt land on ______ sorry ___. That ___ __ _ _____ wasnt nowhere near _______ a _______ years ago. __ aint even a ______, __ is half _______ and half ________.

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    Scroll down here:

    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread....n-t-seem-right

    There is just something downright wrong with Romney..... too bad he cant get into a non fatal....but still serious enough to keep him from running....car accident...... and we can get another chance to pick someone who is at least sane to try and pry Obama out of office.
    One things for _______ sure, ________ rock didnt land on ______ sorry ___. That ___ __ _ _____ wasnt nowhere near _______ a _______ years ago. __ aint even a ______, __ is half _______ and half ________.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Scroll down here:

    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread....n-t-seem-right

    There is just something downright wrong with Romney..... too bad he cant get into a non fatal....but still serious enough to keep him from running....car accident...... and we can get another chance to pick someone who is at least sane to try and pry Obama out of office.
    I have tried explaining to people that Obama Vs Romney is a non-starter. Even if he does win, we have someone who has almost the exact same policies, and judging by his record you will never know what he will do in office. The list of his position swaps are insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post

    I have tried explaining to people that Obama Vs Romney is a non-starter. Even if he does win, we have someone who has almost the exact same policies, and judging by his record you will never know what he will do in office. The list of his position swaps are insane.
    What bothers me is that entitlements have become a big debate in this race, but Romney has no intentions of doing anything about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Scroll down here:

    http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread....n-t-seem-right

    There is just something downright wrong with Romney..... too bad he cant get into a non fatal....but still serious enough to keep him from running....car accident...... and we can get another chance to pick someone who is at least sane to try and pry Obama out of office.

    Pot, kettle, black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    In Tennessee, a new law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls explicitly excludes student IDs.

    In Wisconsin, college students are newly disallowed from using university-provided housing lists or corroboration from other students to verify their residence.

    Florida's reduction in early voting days is expected to reduce the number of young and first-time voters there.

    And Pennsylvania's voter identification bill, still on the books for now, disallows many student IDs and non-Pennsylvania driver's licenses, which means out-of-state students may be turned away at the polls.

    In 2008, youth voter turnout was higher that it had been since Vietnam, and overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. This time around, the GOP isn't counting solely on disillusionment to keep the student vote down.

    In the last two years, Republican-controlled state legislatures have passed dozens of bills that erect new barriers to voting, all targeting Democratic-leaning groups, many specifically aimed at students. The GOP's stated rationale is to fight voter fraud. But voter fraud -- and especially in-person fraud which many of these measures address -- is essentially nonexistent.

    None of the new laws blocks student voting outright -- although in New Hampshire, Republican lawmakers almost passed a bill that would have banned out-of-state students from casting a ballot. (The leader of the State House, Bill O'Brien, was caught on tape explaining how the move was necessary to stop students from "basically doing what I did when I was a kid: voting as a liberal.")

    Old folks and young folks.....and the poor....... thats who voter id is meant to suppress........lol

    Of course the kids and the oldsters know this.....and while the oldsters still cant do anything about it......Im sure those kids out there can....and will.
    Can you provide anything more reliable than the leftist Huffington Post that supports anything that you posted here, or are we just supposed to believe what ever you copy/paste from Huffington?

    In fact, Tennessee does require a government photo ID that is not a student ID...BUT...if a student does not have a government photo ID, they can get one free;
    If you vote in person at the polls, you will have to fill out and sign an application for a ballot (including your current Tennessee address), show a government-issued photo ID other than a student ID,[18] and sign a voter signature list.[19] If you do not have an acceptable photo ID, you can get a free photo ID at any Tennessee DMV Driver Service Center.[20]
    http://www.brennancenter.org/pages/s...uide_tennessee

    As for the residency issue, Tennessee will accept college residency, but warns that by voting as a resident of Tennessee, a student may also become responsible for other laws of residency;
    At School. If you attend school in Tennessee, you can establish residency in Tennessee if you have a present intention to remain at your Tennessee school address for the time being and intend to make it your principal home.[6] Any other interpretation of the residency law is unconstitutional. Your county election commission may not reject your registration based on your living in a rental unit or dormitory.[7]
    Voting in Tennessee may be considered a declaration of residency, potentially making you subject to other laws that govern state residents. For example, qualifying as a registered voter in the state makes you a Tennessee resident for the purposes of the driver’s license law;[8] if you drive, you will be required to get a Tennessee driver’s license within 30 days of establishing residency.[9]
    So, basically, the leftists who use Huffington Post as their source of information are misguided souls being deliberately deceived by Socialist organizers. How's that feel on the behind, corny?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfshadow View Post
    I have tried explaining to people that Obama Vs Romney is a non-starter. Even if he does win, we have someone who has almost the exact same policies, and judging by his record you will never know what he will do in office. The list of his position swaps are insane.
    So, if Romney is not that much different, why not give someone who has actually succeeded in business ventures and who has provided jobs for Americans in the private sector the opportunity to turn around the complete failed debacles that Obama has lorded over on this issue?

    Obama has never done anything in life that is for the betterment of "working" Americans in the private sector. Literally everything that Obama has done in life has only benefitted public sector workers, labor unions and those who live off of sucking on the government teat of Socialism. We at least need someone in office that can work in the direction of developing jobs that will actually pay for all of these Socialist programs.

    If the only difference between Romney and Obama is that Romney can succeed in getting our economy back on the right track, going in the right direction, then why not let Romney do that job that Obama so miserably failed at doing? Romney is a success story; Obama is a failure, where's the problem with deciding who to let do the job?
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    What bothers me is that entitlements have become a big debate in this race, but Romney has no intentions of doing anything about them.
    Explain what you mean by this.
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