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09-09-2012, 09:29 PM
#261
I just love the part where Democrats accuse Republicans of wanting to call those who do illegal things, criminals;
Top Democrats like DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz who attacked the GOP for wanting to make being an illegal alien a crime - have made no secret of their fear of these laws. And they have tried to scare minority groups by hysterically comparing Voter ID to racist Jim Crow laws from long ago
What a disgraceful insult to compare legal Blacks to ILLEGAL invaders.
http://standwitharizona.com/blog/201...-voter-id-law/
...seek, and ye shall find;.. So always seek the Truth, not just what you want to believe to be true
Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV
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09-10-2012, 09:40 AM
#262
 Originally Posted by RoBoTeq
What are you babbling about? It is the Obama administration that is not doing what is needed to be done in order for American's working overseas and American military personnel to vote. Obama's administration is the Democrat Party. What are you confused about?
Not babbling - just the facts - the issue is within the Pentagon and turned up in an audit.
"The Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act was passed by Congress in 2009 and signed into law by President Barack Obama and was supposed to make it easier for both troops deployed overseas and U.S. citizens living abroad to cast ballots back in their home states."
"The inspector general recommended the Pentagon create better survey capabilities to identify the voting needs of service members after the 2012 election and to work with Congress to change the parts of the law that it isn't complying with.
These are direct quotes from your link - show me where the current admin isn't doing what should be done. They passed the Act and when they audited compliance they found problems at individual bases and took measures to correct the problem.
Why do you guys tilt at windmills? These imaginary characters and conspiracies are getting rather tired.
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09-10-2012, 09:52 AM
#263
 Originally Posted by netsalt
Not babbling - just the facts - the issue is within the Pentagon and turned up in an audit.
"The Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act was passed by Congress in 2009 and signed into law by President Barack Obama and was supposed to make it easier for both troops deployed overseas and U.S. citizens living abroad to cast ballots back in their home states."
"The inspector general recommended the Pentagon create better survey capabilities to identify the voting needs of service members after the 2012 election and to work with Congress to change the parts of the law that it isn't complying with.
These are direct quotes from your link - show me where the current admin isn't doing what should be done. They passed the Act and when they audited compliance they found problems at individual bases and took measures to correct the problem.
Why do you guys tilt at windmills? These imaginary characters and conspiracies are getting rather tired.
Many on here dont even read their own links. Its mind blowing sometimes.
Like..why did you post a link to back up your argument when the link you posted goes against your argument.
I think many here might be hitting the old sauce when posting.
Roboto san is a yankee.... Ive heard that most northerners get up in the morning and fix themselves a gin and juice or five before they even think about having a cup of coffee.
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09-11-2012, 11:24 PM
#264
OK, you want photo I.D. for voting?? Hereeeeeere ya go......
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3840249.story
That ought to really stop fraud huh?
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09-12-2012, 01:24 AM
#265
"I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
Sen. Barry Goldwater
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09-12-2012, 02:40 AM
#266
So, 21 pages and we have yet to see any credible evidence presented that voter fraud is a systemic, pervasive problem.
What we do see is an effort to suppress a constitutional right.
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09-12-2012, 03:37 AM
#267
 Originally Posted by geerair
So, 21 pages and we have yet to see any credible evidence presented that voter fraud is a systemic, pervasive problem.
What we do see is an effort to suppress a constitutional right.
I would have to disagree. I think we have seen that illegals are voting when they have no right to vote because they aren't U.S. citizens. Illegals are voting even in states that require current photo I.D. because they have a driver's license. And when you consider this could be hundreds of thousands of people, that's a pervasive problem IMHO.
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09-12-2012, 06:22 AM
#268
This is an example of real election fraud.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/0...appear-in.html
The gov in Florida is looking in the wrong place for election fraud, he needs to look around at the state party convention!
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09-12-2012, 08:41 AM
#269
Don't worry zombies are looking for brains, you're safe...
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09-12-2012, 09:58 AM
#270
From all the data I've seen about voter fraud it seems like it is a non-issue as far as effecting an election. It sounds like you have a better chance finding someone struck by lightning than someone committing voter fraud. You can make the argument that no matter how minute the numbers are we still need to protect from voter fraud because any number at all is still unacceptable. I'm straddling the fence on the issue but I am leaning towards agreeing with the point that any voter fraud at all is unacceptable. Just because we have a right to vote does not relieve us of all responsibility to do what is necessary to protect the integrity of the election. I also think the government should make a good faith effort to help those that are elderly, poor or disabled get the proper ID's needed to vote at no cost. That is kind of ironic adding another government program that would help the Republicans. Any stricter voter ID laws would benefit the Republicans & at this juncture I would rather see a Democrat in office but unlike the majority I look at each issue on its own merit & not how it effects any political party.
Gary
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09-12-2012, 11:51 AM
#271
Complete non issue. Right.
Pay no attention to the woman that was running for congress that was in the news just yesterday for voting multiple times. With so many individual instances of fraud, and very close elections (bush/gore Florida anyone?) every vote matters.
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09-12-2012, 12:47 PM
#272
 Originally Posted by garyed
From all the data I've seen about voter fraud it seems like it is a non-issue as far as effecting an election. It sounds like you have a better chance finding someone struck by lightning than someone committing voter fraud. You can make the argument that no matter how minute the numbers are we still need to protect from voter fraud because any number at all is still unacceptable. I'm straddling the fence on the issue but I am leaning towards agreeing with the point that any voter fraud at all is unacceptable. Just because we have a right to vote does not relieve us of all responsibility to do what is necessary to protect the integrity of the election. I also think the government should make a good faith effort to help those that are elderly, poor or disabled get the proper ID's needed to vote at no cost. That is kind of ironic adding another government program that would help the Republicans. Any stricter voter ID laws would benefit the Republicans & at this juncture I would rather see a Democrat in office but unlike the majority I look at each issue on its own merit & not how it effects any political party.
Yep, stricter voter laws would eliminate those many thousands of illegal Mexican votes.
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09-12-2012, 01:02 PM
#273
Party affiliation aside, isn't this a moral issue? OH WAIT....we aren't allowed to bring up morals anymore in today's kinder, gentler, society....
Don't worry zombies are looking for brains, you're safe...
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