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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    We conservatives don't need to limit Obama's votes this election because he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting re-elected. 8 out of 10 that voted for him in 2008 either won't vote this election or will vote republican. The reason being is he is NOT a good president.
    Never underestimate the enemy or the power of persuasion over easily deceived and naive people. Tammany Hall politics ruled New York City for decades using the same tactics that Obama's administration and the Obama led Democratic Party is using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    We conservatives don't need to limit Obama's votes this election because he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting re-elected. 8 out of 10 that voted for him in 2008 either won't vote this election or will vote republican. The reason being is he is NOT a good president.
    Let's all pray that you're correct............or the end times are nearer than I care to imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    Well we will see in November.

    I'm positive Mitty will be our man.

    Yeah Right.

    And besides even if it is Mitty you still don't have a conservative in the White House.

    What you will have though is a Mormon in the White House.
    Anyone, I mean anyone, could run this country better than Obama. Give one, just one, example of how he has stimulated the economy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjo tech View Post
    Well we will see in November.

    I'm positive Mitty will be our man.

    Yeah Right.

    And besides even if it is Mitty you still don't have a conservative in the White House.

    What you will have though is a Mormon in the White House.
    Now see! This is why leftists cannot be trusted. You stated you were done in a previous thread, and yet here you still are.....

    While I would have liked to have seen a more conservative Republican go up against Obama, I have to admit that Romney will probably be a better healing president for all Americans. I personally don't want the president of the U.S. to be for or against any portion of the American people. What makes us so great is our diversity, and Romney is our best bet for restoring diversity after Obama's dividing us so badly ethnically, socially and politically.

    One thing that should be pointed out is that if Obama does get reelected, by whatever means necessary, Joe Biden better keep his head down and hire a food tester. There is no way the Democrats are going to let Biden be their presidential nominee for 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    Better than a Moron
    Obama is a lot of things, but a moron is not one of them. We must never underestimate the enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Yep, U.S. passports are $110 to renew and $135 for first timers. When the powers that be demand to see photo I.D. now days, they are hitting you in the wallet pretty hard. But, the democrats are so dishonest that you don't know if they are trying to defend illegals to be able to vote or the poor who would have a hard time getting the I.D. Democrats lie most of the time. That is also just my humble opinion.

    My wife and I renewed our passports just about a year ago and I believe it cost us $65 apiece. Still, you should not have to have a passport to be able to show you are who you say you are in order to vote.

    I am confused about something. Do all states not require voters to be registered? If you are registered, and you have shown ID to register, what is the problem with showing ID to vote under your registered name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gcanno View Post
    I have absolutely no objection to the verification of voting status, though this is an all too familiar tactic in my view to deny Americans their Rights.if they do not support certain political interests. The Argument can go on and on forever here in this thread. History will tell you many of the opposite arguments are empty and unproven by facts. Facts that the very same people who c who make such arguments dismiss and attack also.

    Why can't the Greatest Country on Earth achieve something as simple as to guarantee every citizen the right to vote.

    Why are elections held in one Day, for something so Important why can't we make it a Friday,Saturday,Sunday and make Monday a National Holiday to allow people to participate in the process. I can think of no greater way to justify a Holiday.

    We can also spend the remainder the week verifying the Votes to make sure everything is legit. I find you will get the same people just trying another tactic to continue the denial of rights in an effort to advance their agenda .
    All good suggestions. It does seem odd that we have to listen to two years of political rhetoric from possible candidates and then have one day to make it all happen. Shorten the process and give a little more time to count the votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Interesting thread, I asked a question about statistics and no one has posted any viable statistics showing that voter fraud is rampant and that ID will solve it. I also asked why this is important now - crickets .......... I have been accused of being racist and reported i guess even though I was just stating the obvious http://www.gallup.com/poll/150386/re...tion-2008.aspx . The only thing I might add to the old, rich, white statement is married - of which I belong to all of the above groups (except maybe rich!). This whole voter regulation thing reeks of a partisan effort to stifle non favorable votes. Voter ID, changing the number of days for voting, gerrymandering the districts, all done by one political party but no this is not political it is for the good of the country -reminds me of the Bush wire-tapping stuff. Is this the same party that is screaming for deregulation? I guess that deregulation is only for the "job creators" not us common folk.
    What kind of statistics are you looking for? Do you have any statistics proving that voter fraud does not occur or that the possibiltiy of voter fraud does not exist? Several posts have specific voter fraud incidences, so why are you babbling on about wanting statistics?

    If having to prove you are who you say you are in order to cast a vote can prevent the voter fraud that has been shown to exist or voter fraud that is possible with so many dead Americans still registered, and it can, why would anyone not want this safeguard in place?

    The argument against voters having to prove who they are is that certain American citizens may not be allowed to vote. If you can't prove you are an American citizen or that you are who you claim to be, are you really someone to be trusted? The law doesn't think so if a police officer asks you to show something identifying yourself. Just what kind of American really cannot show proof of who they are? And....is an American who is so out of the system really someone who is going to be responsible enough to do their civic duty to vote? If so, we need to get those Americans back into the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    What kind of statistics are you looking for? Do you have any statistics proving that voter fraud does not occur or that the possibiltiy of voter fraud does not exist? Several posts have specific voter fraud incidences, so why are you babbling on about wanting statistics?

    If having to prove you are who you say you are in order to cast a vote can prevent the voter fraud that has been shown to exist or voter fraud that is possible with so many dead Americans still registered, and it can, why would anyone not want this safeguard in place?

    The argument against voters having to prove who they are is that certain American citizens may not be allowed to vote. If you can't prove you are an American citizen or that you are who you claim to be, are you really someone to be trusted? The law doesn't think so if a police officer asks you to show something identifying yourself. Just what kind of American really cannot show proof of who they are? And....is an American who is so out of the system really someone who is going to be responsible enough to do their civic duty to vote? If so, we need to get those Americans back into the system.
    Why has this suddenly become an issue? Has voter fraud increased since 2000/2004/2008? I contend this is a solution that is searching for a problem.

    Politics pure and simple. The people proposing these laws are using this issue to draw attention away from the fact that they cannot or will not deal with more pressing issues.

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    When I registered to vote I did not have to show an ID to anyone. Just sent in a card but had to have a registered voter sponsor me...or be a reference.

    Showing a photo ID when voting....... its always been hit or miss....... I probably know everyone behind the desks and working the booths at the voting station when I go vote and there are so few voters in my precinct that everyone pretty much knows or knows of everyone else.

    I vote at the hood precinct..... didnt even see much of a crowd for bams first election... but I did see more black folks. Never seen a mexican vote and the only white folks I ever see voting are us older voters and the oldsters....or really old folks.

    I think voter id laws in part are trying to discourage a lot of older folks from voting..... that gives the candidates an edge when it comes to cutting benefits from them.

    If you look at the statistics you really are not going to find a voter fraud problem and when you do find voter fraud its usually not intentional...its someone making a mistake..... voting in the wrong precinct, not keeping their stuff up to date.... Id say there are some criminals who shouldnt be voting who try to vote.

    I will agree that Romney.....the anybody but obama candidate is a good choice for a caretaker president.....as long as he keeps his hands off stuff and just rides out his 4-8 years without letting that pesky athiest ryan influence any policy.

    I also believe that ryan is a liability to romney....he should have chosen a running mate who was a little more low key.

    Of course... no matter who gets elected its going to be us working folks getting the shaft.....cause neither bams or molech is out to do a damn thing for us. Our taxes will continue to increase....there will be more charges and surtaxes and other stuff allowed to be placed on our bills as monthly charges.....gas gonna continue to rise.......prices gonna continue to increase.....and jobs going to continue to leave this country.

    We would probably be better off electing reverend moons corpse as prez.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Now see! This is why leftists cannot be trusted. You stated you were done in a previous thread, and yet here you still are.....

    While I would have liked to have seen a more conservative Republican go up against Obama, I have to admit that Romney will probably be a better healing president for all Americans. I personally don't want the president of the U.S. to be for or against any portion of the American people. What makes us so great is our diversity, and Romney is our best bet for restoring diversity after Obama's dividing us so badly ethnically, socially and politically.

    One thing that should be pointed out is that if Obama does get reelected, by whatever means necessary, Joe Biden better keep his head down and hire a food tester. There is no way the Democrats are going to let Biden be their presidential nominee for 2016.
    Done arguing with you.

    I remember your claim about a brokered convention. Did not happen.

    You just keep going on and on until someone just gives up discussing anything with you.

    You consider that winning the debate but it is not.

    Its simply that we all could actually care less what your opinion is. Anyone who reads enough of your posts knows you believe you are never wrong on any subject.

    So really discussing anything with you is never going to accomplish anything as you only really love to hear yourself type.

    Just like your brokered convention which did not happen Mitty is not going to win the election.

    So you conservlicans needed to somehow find a way to make it close.

    Voter suppression is their way of doing it and saying that you are all about cutting voter fraud is just a smoke screen to hide your real agenda.

    Twist words, dodge, dance around anyway you want, but your true agenda is clear for all to see on this issue.

    And professing othewise just hurts your credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Obama is a lot of things, but a moron is not one of them. We must never underestimate the enemy.
    Actually he is a moron because anyone who thinks socialism/communism works is obviously a moron

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    Yeah, voter ID suppresses voting like requiring a drivers license suppresses driving.

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