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    The Hunger Games...a vision?

    I watched The Hunger Games last night, and before anything else I'd like to say that my wife, adult daughter in law and I all thought it was a really good movie.

    Something about the setting for the movie unsettled me though. In the movie, North America is divided into 12 districts run by a Capitol City. The districts are all somewhat reminiscent of European countries under Communist rule, with the subjects of this world being equally poor and oppressed while the elite ruling class endulged in what financial gain was produced by the subjects.

    There are high speed magno-electric trains that carry the elite in luxury to and from the outlying districts, so the vision is that the proposed high speed rail lines will become a fact, but at a cost to the North American countries that allows only the elite ruling class to benefit from them.

    The subjects of this fabled future society live in districts that are impovershed and under a very strict Big Brother type of watchful eye from government civilian security force, very similar to what Obama proposes for the U.S. Workers are poor and work under adverse conditions, just as is the case in every country where organized labor forces have complete rule over the workers. After all, once every worker must belong to the "brotherhood", there is no longer any reason for the "brotherhood" to provide anything for all workers to be equal.....equally as bad off that is.

    The society in which this movie depicts North America living under seems to be exactly the kind of society that Obama and elitist Democrats envision. A society where those who think they know better how to "take care" of the masses live in their deserved luxury while the masses exist to serve them. I suppose the society depicted in this movie is one that appeals to those who think themselves to be socially and intellectually "better" than others. Those who actually believe that their desires to rule over others is "progressive" thinking. But, how do the masses feel about this type of society?

    A glimmer of real "hope" in this movie's depiction of the type of society those like Obama envision is that some who are accepted into the world of the elites are not very content with the way things are. The movie show revolt at the district level and an internal undermining of the elitist social structure from some of those accepted into the elitist society.

    When I think of a possible outcome to correcting the vast class distinctions between the masses and the elites in this society, I think of South Africa. While South African society was very unfair and unjust under British apartheid rule, it is really no better since the changes have been made because the system simply reversed which color of skin became the elitists and which color became the oppressed.

    Hopefully, visions of a possible elitist run, Socialist society such is depicted in The Hunger Games will be avoided by our very understanding that this is not the best way for society to go if all of mankind wishes to be truly free with the potential for equality.
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    The social structure is a familiar thread running through science fiction literature in thousands of books. And somehow (even in Socialist Canada we can never attain the pure vision as portrayed in the books or movies, and is it a surprise that Canada has 12 main 'districts').

    If you liked the Hunger Games maybe you should check out the Japanese original. Battle Royale.

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    Its going on now. NWO elites envision districts as trade blocs, such as the EU and NAFTA. Areas of the world are divided up, so as to better the global ruling class. Japan, Canada, USA......all the same when it all comes down to fate. Of course, as designed, most of the citizenry will receive the shortest straw, much like The Hunger Games.
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    Of course it's a familiar thread of elitist attidudes. I saw hints of Roller Ball, 1984, The Running Man and many other similarly themed stories in The Hunger Games. This movie just looks a little more precise to what the fascist elites of the world envision "their" version of utopia to be like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whec720 View Post
    Its going on now. NWO elites envision districts as trade blocs, such as the EU and NAFTA. Areas of the world are divided up, so as to better the global ruling class. Japan, Canada, USA......all the same when it all comes down to fate. Of course, as designed, most of the citizenry will receive the shortest straw, much like The Hunger Games.
    Fortunately, we so often avoid possible futures by being able to envision how they could come about and change the direction in which we are going that would cause such a future to come about. I see movies like The Hunger Games, along with all of the other similarly themed movies to be catalysts for our preventing such possible futures from occurring.

    So often we say to ourselves that a predicted future never came to pass without realizing that the reason such a future did not come to pass is that we were able to envision that future and therefore avoid it.
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    Its the human condition. No matter what mechanisms the human race puts forward to equal justice and dignity, there are those who feel they are better, and will suppress it. It is a common story told by many. Probably the best author to describe the phenomena is Dr. Seuss' The Sneetches.
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    Funny, fascism is generally associated with the far RIGHT of the political spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whec720 View Post
    Its the human condition. No matter what mechanisms the human race puts forward to equal justice and dignity, there are those who feel they are better, and will suppress it. It is a common story told by many. Probably the best author to describe the phenomena is Dr. Seuss' The Sneetches.
    Dr. Suess was a social genius whose works need to be better paid attention to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syndicated View Post
    Funny, fascism is generally associated with the far RIGHT of the political spectrum.
    Only by those on the far left. Try reading Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Facism" for a more objective perception of how fascism has been prevelently used by "progressive" thinking persons.
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    Funny how we have a right wing politician in power that is controlling to the point where the politicians in his party can not speak unless it is cleared by the top brass, they muzzle any in the public workforce (scientists that could talk freely before about their work and now, as above, has to be approved by their political masters. He has taken steps to redefining how our society functions with little regard to the political process. The elitist crowd comes in all stripes, basically it is about a concentration of power and not really a function of where you lie on the political spectrum. On the flip side you will have the book Neuromancer and the film Blade Runner to give us pause letting the corporations decide societies fate.

    In real life it seems the pendulum swings one way or the other for a time but so far tends toward a middle of the road path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Only by those on the far left. Try reading Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Facism" for a more objective perception of how fascism has been prevelently used by "progressive" thinking persons.
    With a title as 'Liberal Facism' I doubt there will be much objective perception to be had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    With a title as 'Liberal Facism' I doubt there will be much objective perception to be had.
    lol, how true
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Funny how we have a right wing politician in power that is controlling to the point where the politicians in his party can not speak unless it is cleared by the top brass, they muzzle any in the public workforce (scientists that could talk freely before about their work and now, as above, has to be approved by their political masters. He has taken steps to redefining how our society functions with little regard to the political process. The elitist crowd comes in all stripes, basically it is about a concentration of power and not really a function of where you lie on the political spectrum. On the flip side you will have the book Neuromancer and the film Blade Runner to give us pause letting the corporations decide societies fate.

    In real life it seems the pendulum swings one way or the other for a time but so far tends toward a middle of the road path.
    I agree with most of your opinion, but not the last statement. How are we at the middle of the road path? Seems to me the secular crowd is dominating now, which is usually tagged as the liberals (a false name for such a group, but I don't make the rules).
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