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    copper theft

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    Is jail getting too crowded over there in Wichita for ac thieves?!??? Wow. Now only if he gets shot while stealing more units....

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    $100,000 in damage and 12 months of probation??? Sounds like a good deal to me!

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    Epa should go after him. They'd go after us...
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    If someone caught him on their property at night, in the act of stealing their air conditioner, and shot him, or just bet the crap out of them, they would almost surely due more hard time than him because Kansas has a weaksauce "Castle Doctrine", and no "stand your ground" law to protect otherwise law abiding citizens defending their person or property.
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    If someone caught him on their property at night, in the act of stealing their air conditioner, and shot him, or just bet the crap out of them, they would almost surely due more hard time than him because Kansas has a weaksauce "Castle Doctrine", and no "stand your ground" law to protect otherwise law abiding citizens defending their person or property.
    In IL, I can only use deadly force to protect myself or another human if in fear of my/their life. I cannot protect my property(this includes pets)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    In IL, I can only use deadly force to protect myself or another human if in fear of my/their life. I cannot protect my property(this includes pets)
    In Texas I can use deadly force to protect my self, family, guests, neighbors, the guy jogging down my street, my house, my property, my neighbors property, my car, my workplace, etc..
    There is no requirement to retreat, as long as 3 criteria are met.
    (1) I had a right to be present at the location where deadly force was used.
    (2) I did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used.
    (3) I was not engaged in criminal activity at the time deadly force was used.

    I hope to never again been in a situation where taking another human life is an option on the menu, but I'm glad I live in a state where I am protected from prosecution, criminal or civil, if it comes down to that.

    I say "again" because a few years ago I did catch a burglar stealing stuff from my tool shed at night.
    In the eyes of the law I could have killed him with no legal consequences. Morally I didn't see any justification in taking an unarmed kids life for trying to steel a lawnmower and some yard tools.
    If I had caught him breaking into my house, or my service van, the consequences for him may have been very different. You don't F with my home or my livelyhood.
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    In IL, I can only use deadly force to protect myself or another human if in fear of my/their life. I cannot protect my property(this includes pets)
    When I was at the Trane school in LaCrosse he referred to IL as the "communist state of IL" as the reason he left. Crazy.

    I can't believe after $100,000 worth of damage that it wasn't a felony?!

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    Probably played the good old game of seperate charges so individually it wasn't enough to be a felony...bunch of BS. I agree EPA should go after him!
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    How many former GOVENORS have served (or are serving) time in IL???? and we re how many $$$$ in debt??? I better stop or this will be moved to ARP
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    Had a job at an inner city KFC - manager walked in one morning and found the place hot and no refrigeration. Went on the roof and found both HVAC units copper cut clean out of the condensers. Also found stubs of copper where the walk in freezer and cooler condensing units were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    In Texas I can use deadly force to protect my self, family, guests, neighbors, the guy jogging down my street, my house, my property, my neighbors property, my car, my workplace, etc..
    There is no requirement to retreat, as long as 3 criteria are met.
    (1) I had a right to be present at the location where deadly force was used.
    (2) I did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used.
    (3) I was not engaged in criminal activity at the time deadly force was used.

    I hope to never again been in a situation where taking another human life is an option on the menu, but I'm glad I live in a state where I am protected from prosecution, criminal or civil, if it comes down to that.

    I say "again" because a few years ago I did catch a burglar stealing stuff from my tool shed at night.
    In the eyes of the law I could have killed him with no legal consequences. Morally I didn't see any justification in taking an unarmed kids life for trying to steel a lawnmower and some yard tools.
    If I had caught him breaking into my house, or my service van, the consequences for him may have been very different. You don't F with my home or my livelyhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    In Texas I can use deadly force to protect my self, family, guests, neighbors, the guy jogging down my street, my house, my property, my neighbors property, my car, my workplace, etc..
    There is no requirement to retreat, as long as 3 criteria are met.
    (1) I had a right to be present at the location where deadly force was used.
    (2) I did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used.
    (3) I was not engaged in criminal activity at the time deadly force was used.

    I hope to never again been in a situation where taking another human life is an option on the menu, but I'm glad I live in a state where I am protected from prosecution, criminal or civil, if it comes down to that.

    I say "again" because a few years ago I did catch a burglar stealing stuff from my tool shed at night.
    In the eyes of the law I could have killed him with no legal consequences. Morally I didn't see any justification in taking an unarmed kids life for trying to steel a lawnmower and some yard tools.
    If I had caught him breaking into my house, or my service van, the consequences for him may have been very different. You don't F with my home or my livelyhood.
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