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  1. #1
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    The medicare coffin nail

    like all socialist programs, medicare is bribe money during elections.
    its the same thing every freaking election.
    "do you want a couple hundred bucks?"
    "or do you want the republicans to change it so you don't know what you'll get?"
    they KNOW most people will take the bribe money, vote for the corrupt democrats, and bill it to their grandchildren, rather than not take it at all.
    then when the country goes bankrupt, the Socialists take over and say "see? we told you capitalism doesn't work!"


    according to CBS, the 700 million obama took from medicare, is actually 700 million in savings.
    since the government numbers are all fictitious i'm sure it will be easy to switch this around

    so, stupid Romney is up there, reading the lines they gave him, saying he wants to make Medicare an optional program, and people can get a government voucher, ..for an unknown amount..and be stuck with the rest of the bill.

    Romney DID says you can stay with your current medicare plan, but people who run politics know that a lot of people will be confused by the facts, and they will only emphasize the proposed change to medicare.

    they're going to push this issue in swing states, they already talked about the numbers of people on medicare in these areas.


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    Politics sucks!
    They PLAY with our money, and our welfare, then they pull the rug out from under us, and we wonder what happened and who did what.....

    The liberals are the more devious and lie the most, should we vote for the LESSER of 2 EVILS?
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    The health care law instituted a number of changes to try to bring down future health care costs in the program. The total anticipated savings comes to $716 billion over the next 10 years, as determined by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

    We should note that both parties agree Medicare spending is increasing too fast as baby boomers retire and medical costs increase. The government needs to find savings so those costs don’t overwhelm the federal budget in the future.

    So, yes, Obama’s law did find $716 billion in spending reductions. They were mainly aimed at insurance companies and hospitals, not beneficiaries. The law made significant reductions to Medicare Advantage, a subset of Medicare plans run by private insurers. Medicare Advantage was started under President George W. Bush, and the idea was that competition among the private insurers would reduce costs. But the plans have actually cost the government more than traditional Medicare. The health care law scales back the payments to private insurers.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ed-716-billio/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    The health care law instituted a number of changes to try to bring down future health care costs in the program. The total anticipated savings comes to $716 billion over the next 10 years, as determined by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

    We should note that both parties agree Medicare spending is increasing too fast as baby boomers retire and medical costs increase. The government needs to find savings so those costs don’t overwhelm the federal budget in the future.

    So, yes, Obama’s law did find $716 billion in spending reductions. They were mainly aimed at insurance companies and hospitals, not beneficiaries. The law made significant reductions to Medicare Advantage, a subset of Medicare plans run by private insurers. Medicare Advantage was started under President George W. Bush, and the idea was that competition among the private insurers would reduce costs. But the plans have actually cost the government more than traditional Medicare. The health care law scales back the payments to private insurers.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ed-716-billio/
    Sure looks like a political piece you are trying to quote as fact....they are drawing inferences from articles and claiming it to be fact.

    And what to the overall cost of the bill? Wait we're still waiting to pay that ticket aren't we...since it is just a new tax.
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